re: Afghan veteran in standoff with police over red flag laws in up state NY

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Because I believe the second amendment keeps a free people free. Why do you love heavy handed governance?

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Dude, I am pro guns an all, but you are defending this dude as if he was just a guy sitting at home watching college football and all of a sudden the police showed up because they heard he had some guns in his house. And once they showed up he wen throw on his military gear as if he was planning on going to war with a bunch of police.

If that is really what happened, there would be some serious backlash. But this will be something both sides of the political aisle will use to fit their agenda.

Do you have all of the facts? Reprehensible behavior based on a screenshot of a text message of someone you don’t know at all? It’s called being reasonable and looking at the totality of all of the circumstances. Calling for cops to be “taken out” is stupid. Not saying that you said that, but is that reasonable? Making assumptions based on partial knowledge usually doesn’t pay off. So if you read my earlier posts, I never said anything about arresting anyone or taking anything from anyone.

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but you are defending this dude as if he was just a guy sitting at home watching college football and all of a sudden the police showed up because they heard he had some guns in his house.

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Wouldn't doubt they went overboard. I'd trust a citizen before the government.

Imagine how you dope smokers would feel if the friend you have that doesn’t smoke turned you in to the police for smoking dope.

That’s what happened here.

frick red flag laws. They are unconstitutional excuses for a heavy handed police state.

You can dress it up however you’d like, but you don’t have what you’re demanding we present in this thread when you’re arresting people and that’s a FACT.

So lets say this happens.

A husband with mental issues flips out and threats to kill his wife and their kids. He leaves out of the room and goes towards an area where he keeps his guns. The wife takes the kids and leaves.. Call the police and reports what happens. You think they the police are violating his rights if they temporarily take his guns? Yes I know he can use other weapons, but you can do more damage with guns. Someone not thinking rational and has threatened to kill someone should have their guns temporarily taken away from them. That's a safety issue.

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You think they the police are violating his rights if they temporarily take his guns?

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Yes

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frick red flag laws.

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All they will do is keep people from seeking help

The unintended consequence of government overregulation and laws.

So you’re in favor of violating not one, but two constitutional rights for the sake of “safety.”

Good to know.