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advice from contractors about moisture barriers

Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:34 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:34 pm
im building some house steps from all treated lumber that will be in direct contact with concrete slab, so moisture wicking is of serious concern.

its a large set of steps with a landing, basically a small porch, so it is not easily moved or lifted after its built.

i thought about putting small squares of roofing tar paper for a vapor barrier under the 4x4 posts but is there something else that might be better?
Posted by JoePepitone
Waffle House #1494
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:38 pm to
Jump over to the OB. They’ve been arguing over vapor barriers for the past few days.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:40 pm to
Glue a piece of rubber mat under the 4x4 posts/legs.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:42 pm to
Could you use some caulk and a foam sill plate gasket?
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:49 pm to
What you need is a standoff post base.

ETA: Simpson Strongtie CPTZ
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

What you need is a standoff post base.


i looked at those, but the galvanized ones dont seem strong enough and the heavy duty steel ones will rust like crazy seeing its down in golden meadow and even the fog and dew is salty like.

plus this is a house entry point so it needs to carry huge loads. just the steps alone are likely a few hundred pounds, then add the load of people carrying sofas, refrigerators, and appliances in and out of the house, i dont think a stamped steel bracket is not going to hold up under those conditions.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Glue a piece of rubber mat under the 4x4 posts/legs.


hmmm, i hadnt thought of that
Posted by teambooyah
Member since Aug 2015
145 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:41 pm to
Bro....

Those things can hold A LOT of weight.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:47 pm to
If you're already using a concrete slab, just get post anchor brackets and attach it to the concrete. The metal will be in between the concrete and the ground. If you really wanted to "seal" it, I guess you could put some roofing tar on the ends of the posts before attaching but it doesn't seem necessary if you don't have tar on-hand.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

the galvanized ones dont seem strong enough


They are. How tall are these steps and how many posts? This is the preferred method of attaching wooden posts to concrete.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Those things can hold A LOT of weight.
This.

The only worry I’d consider in Golden Meadow is uplift (the wooden structure floating) from flooding.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 3:51 pm
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:54 pm to
Its rated to 3,350lbs of uplift, thats more than enough to keep it from floating away.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

How tall are these steps and how many posts?


three 8ft posts for landings and railings and three 4ft ones for the steps
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

What you need is a standoff post base.

ETA: Simpson Strongtie CPTZ


ok, i am sorry, i thought you were talking about these things LINK

that is what i saw at home depot, and you can see why i wasnt sure how strong those things were.

these were the steel ones i saw that i figured would be rusty as shite in no time LINK

i didnt know about the ones you mentioned but yes, those look strong and solid so i will look into getting those
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 6:25 pm
Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
11124 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 6:45 pm to
Just throw some STEGO on it and be done with it
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23354 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 6:57 pm to
You need a #8 Henway, we use them all the time.
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2600 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 7:10 pm to
Coat that wood with Copper-Tox, it’ll last for a long time if treated with it
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:32 am to
quote:

three 8ft posts for landings and railings and three 4ft ones for the steps


galvanized anchors should be more than sufficient. The random one I looked up specs on had a weight limit between 1200-3600lbs depending on the application. That's per bracket, with the weight spread this much those brackets will probably outlive you.
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