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Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:17 pm to Kcrad
One thing that always bothered me driving through BR is some big black broad with 7 kids in the back of a Cutlass could be driving down 10 with all the babies in the back seat in no restraints dancing to Morris Day and the time and police ignore it and pull over a working dude for driving 10 over rhe limit.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:18 pm to lsupride87
Looking back to when I was a kid, in the 80s, there were a lot of things that were done, that was pretty fricking unsafe. Ride in the back of the truck. My brother and sister are 11 and 10 years older than I, if I went somewhere with just the both of them, they would sit me on the dashboard. One time, I remember my brother had is hand on the door knob and my sister made a hard turn and he leaned on it, the door opened and he fell out. He was all scraped up, but he didn't have a seat belt on.. That was the norm.
But there is a lot more data and people are more aware today and for the people complaining.. Wouldn't you rather be safe than sorry? Almost every time there is a news story about a kid getting killed in a car wreck, they were not properly secure.
People use to not be aware of the health risk associated with smoking cigarettes. Now we are, should more people start smoking again and it should be allowed everywhere just because that's how it use to be?
lsupride, this isn't directed to you.. I just happened to respond to your post.
But there is a lot more data and people are more aware today and for the people complaining.. Wouldn't you rather be safe than sorry? Almost every time there is a news story about a kid getting killed in a car wreck, they were not properly secure.
People use to not be aware of the health risk associated with smoking cigarettes. Now we are, should more people start smoking again and it should be allowed everywhere just because that's how it use to be?
lsupride, this isn't directed to you.. I just happened to respond to your post.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:23 pm to Kcrad
quote:I’m from New Hampshire originally but Tennessee has been my home since high school. Feel free to compare the secondary and tertiary education of either of those to LA.
You're from Tennessee, right?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:25 pm to Pecker
NH, huh. No wonder you're staring down your over-sized nose at people from the South.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:27 pm to fightin tigers
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Once the child reaches 30" a regular safety belt is just as effective.
(There is some evidence showing that the child is more at risk)
Ted Talk on the subject (18 min)
One of the comments on the video talking about Leavitt's skewed data:
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Levitt's data doesn't account for the phenomenal increase in safety offered by today's higher capacity rear facing seats, nor does it take into account how much safer a car seat is when used correctly regardless of which direction it faces (which is hard to quantify in national statistics because up to 90% are used incorrectly; a problem that can be solved if parents will take the time to have regular check-ups with a certified child passenger safety technician). I don't doubt that a forward facing car seat installed by an "average" parent who barely glanced at the manual (if at all) is no safer than a seat belt provided you have one of those unusual toddlers who will actually remain belted in the car.
More common sense spouted in the comments:
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With a background in engineering i find it extremely hard to believe that a lap belt or shoulder / lap belt can protect a child more than a 5 point child harness in a child seat ... in fact i cant imagine how the child in the video's head hit his knees if correctly fitted .... formula 1 uses 5 point harness, drag racing uses 5 point harness, speedway uses 5 point harness jet fighter pilot uses 5 point harness off shore powerboat racing uses 5 point harnesses jet boating uses 5 point harnesses the list goes on and on .... Why ? because they work. To try to convince me that a lap belt is safer for my child than a child seat is idiotic ..... i like Steven but i just cant find any sense in this talk
Another:
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In this case I am also not convinced with the result. According to the real-life crash tests he did, the car seat and seatbelt performed equally well in the 6 year old, but in the 2 year old, the car seat performed BETTER than the seatbelt. So this would seem to invalidate his point yet he glosses over this. At the end of the talk he hints at the fact that while carseats may be better, the economic cost may not justify the expense. This is possible, but he needs to separate the facts from the decision-making which is based on valuation.
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I do not agree with the last statement - even if there is a difference in the probability of being injured is it cost effective or not? Is he serious? Surely, you would not want your child to have a higher probability of being hurt (knowingly) if car seats are better at preventing injury. It may be right from the macro perspective, but from the micro perspective it seems unethical.
For whatever reason, this crappy "study" is used to justify some wrong point that he's trying to make. You know, like a generic Pecker thread.
But enough about this crappy TED talk. I do agree with your initial point about 8 year olds being in car seats. I just think it's fricking stupid to think a two year old is safer in a regular seat belt than in a PROPERLY secured car seat. That was my beef with your post.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:32 pm to Kcrad
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NH, huh. No wonder you're staring down your over-sized nose at people from the South.
Is this a Jew joke? I’m not Jewish or Italian and do not possess an aquiline nose.Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:40 pm to Pecker
Far from it. It's a statement of fact concerning people from the northeast. They on average have much larger noses than people down south. Also, to a person, they think southerners are rubes. I spent 15 years up there and experienced it firsthand. Later, granitehead.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:42 pm to Pecker
Sorry you're a poor. You want me to send you some of our used car seats?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:44 pm to Kcrad
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They on average have much larger noses than people down south. Also, to a person, they think southerners are rubes. I spent 15 years up there and experienced it firsthand.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:46 pm to Pecker
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Is this a Jew joke? I’m not Jewish or Italian and do not possess an aquiline nose.
Know idea what he was getting at there. I've never thought of New Hampshire as a place known for its particular abundance of either.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:47 pm to Kcrad
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Far from it. It's a statement of fact concerning people from the northeast. They on average have much larger noses than people down south. Also, to a person, they think southerners are rubes. I spent 15 years up there and experienced it firsthand. Later, granitehead.
Interesting. I wasn’t aware that Northerners had larger noses. I’ll have to look into that.
I don’t actually think southerners are rubes. There are a lot of dumb people up north. I actually love the South (TN specifically) or I wouldn’t live here as I had options to go to other parts of the country after school.
My comment was a playful shot at Louisiana, not the South.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:50 pm to BBONDS25
quote:I don’t have any kids and there’s little room in the back of the AMG.
Sorry you're a poor. You want me to send you some of our used car seats?
I do have some bird children that I just adopted but they aren’t allowed in the car.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:51 pm to Pecker
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little room in the back of the AMG.
Entry level luxury. Sad.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:58 pm to BBONDS25
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Entry level luxury. Sad.
That there entry level AMG
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:00 pm to Pecker
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That there entry level AMG
Sorry, I don't speak ghetto. When you have kids you should sell your spinners and get a nice car seat.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:02 pm to BBONDS25
quote:I’m not having kids so luckily I can keep my spinners
When you have kids you should sell your spinners and get a nice car seat.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:07 pm to Pecker
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I’m not having kids so luckily I can keep my spinners
More poors should think like you. If you can't afford kids, don't have them.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:11 pm to Pecker
The laws seem to be that until a certain weight and or height you should be in one. I would guess that makes it more safe, I’m not a physicist or a crash test dummy so I don’t know.
But also I don’t freak out if I need to go somewhere with my 7 year old who is very light and I don’t have a car seat.
It’s not a big deal and the kid is safer. Why not?
But also I don’t freak out if I need to go somewhere with my 7 year old who is very light and I don’t have a car seat.
It’s not a big deal and the kid is safer. Why not?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:12 pm to Pecker
Seriously. You have to be one of the sorriest c@nts on here.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 10:14 pm
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