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re: ADP Report: U.S. Lost 32,000 Jobs in September

Posted on 10/1/25 at 11:39 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297219 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 11:39 am to
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When?



Now.

Who can afford to lose money in this trade war?

Big business or small business.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8577 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 11:40 am to
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It's seasonally-adjusted.


BLS reports are. this article based on ADP payroll does not,


For being so confident, you are so terribly wrong. The ADP's reporting is always seasonally adjusted. You can look on their website and on any reporting on it, and it says in quite plain English that they do so. Or is an army of PhD economists not smart enough to figure out something that Jim Bob on TigerDroppings can pull out of their arse?

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Wage growth is a more accurate indicator of economic health.



They are both important indicators of economic health, and they are two of many at that.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57012 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 11:40 am to
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Now.


That is not supported by your article.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297219 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 11:42 am to
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That is not supported by your article


The whole of economics isnt contained in that article. Youre simply deflecting.


Do you know what economies of scale are?

Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9839 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 11:59 am to
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BugAC


You live in a bubble. I know this because you have no idea of the impact your tariffs have had on American agriculture.

Also, your party owns the government…all 3 branches. Don’t blame the minority. It’s called negotiation but your president is too busy sending out HILARIOUS memes on social media instead of doing the hard work of governing.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9839 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 12:03 pm to
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am sorry they don't want to give your illegal aliens free money.


That’s a blatant lie not worthy of retort. Of course you believe it, because you’re literally and objectively dumb.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24794 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 12:08 pm to
Don't worry, your daughter is not going to lose her healthcare.
This post was edited on 10/1/25 at 12:09 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57012 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 12:32 pm to
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The whole of economics isnt contained in that article. Youre simply deflecting.


But i'm not. Again, you posted an article. I simply posted what was in the article, and your response is, "well you just are too stupid to understand the article" and then when i ask you to then explain it to me, your response is either "i already did" in reference to nothing, or "i don't have to explain it to you".

What did your article say that is incorrect or that i misinterpreted, specifically. Highlight what i quoted, and what you think it meant, rather than what they actually said.

Or, will you do this retarded dance that everyone who posts a failed response does, and obfuscate?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297219 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 12:34 pm to
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But i'm not. Again, you posted an article.




This thread is about losing jobs due to Donny's trade wars. You want it limited to one article because youre clueless.
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What did your article say that is incorrect or that i misinterpreted,



I did. I showed you where Americans are eating the cost of tariffs, not the Chinese.


This post was edited on 10/1/25 at 12:35 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57012 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 12:36 pm to
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. I know this because you have no idea of the impact your tariffs have had on American agriculture.



Please list them. I'm willing to learn since you are so knowledgeable.

List the specific tariff, the pre-tariff data, and the post tariff data.

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Also, your party owns the government…


Well, Republicans aren't "my party" but i do vote with them 100% of the time. I'm not a DEI/marxist type. Sorry.

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Don’t blame the minority.


Depends on what you are trying to shift blame onto. Sounds like you are trying to coopt an argument that hasn't happened yet. Care to explain?

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It’s called negotiation


Correct, that is exactly what these tariffs are. Negotiation by force. We have the big stick, we can do what we want.

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instead of doing the hard work of governing.


Like your boy Biden did so gracefully???
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57012 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 12:38 pm to
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This thread is about losing jobs due to Donny's trade wars. You want it limited to one article because youre clueless.


It was YOUR frickING ARTICLE, DIPSHIT. You posted it without reading it, because you thought it would back up your claim. You FAILED.

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I did. I showed you where Americans are eating the cost of tariffs, not the Chinese.


Where? I didn't read your other article that you scavenged for. I figured it would be the same failure that your first one was. Was i incorrect? Did you post the right hit piece this time?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297219 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 12:42 pm to
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It was YOUR frickING ARTICLE, DIPSHIT.


Youre the only retard stuck on an article.

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Where?


Of course. You get so excited that you cant follow the fricking thread.

Thats on your arse.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86264 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Just need more tariffs and big beautiful bills


Wage growth is outpacing inflation.

But that’s not a good narrative so we just leave that part out.


Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
18976 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:14 pm to
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Youre the only retard


You’re wrong about that libertard!
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27609 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:18 pm to
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Wage growth is outpacing inflation.


Correct. Has been since February 2023.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297219 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:19 pm to
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You’re wrong about that libertard!


Libitards support tariffs. Union payoffs.

Libitard.
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:44 pm to
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The real issue is wage stagnation, or wage polarization. Job stability doesn't provide socioeconomic benefits if a huge segment of the workforce is struggling to live paycheck to paycheck while a small wealthy group focuses on ratf*cking the system to consolidate wealth, power and control amongst themselves






We are headed for a huge tipping point

Once all those hard working pull yourself up by your bootstraps just give em a firm handshake and look em in the eye Boomers retire or start dying you’re going to see a massive shift to automation which will only increase productivity and drive down wages further.

Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 2:38 pm to
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So you believe that wealth is finite. One can not be rich without another becoming poor, is that your rationale?

You realize the quarterly reports that companies aim for good numbers to boost up are based around suppressing employee wages right?

Every extra dollar they pay in salary counts against their goal. They will pay people what they have to to keep them around and for the most part they dont wanna pay any more than that number.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24794 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 2:44 pm to
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Every extra dollar they pay in salary counts against their goal. They will pay people what they have to to keep them around and for the most part they dont wanna pay any more than that number.


That is some real intellectual firepower right there.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16283 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 2:53 pm to
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Anyway, ADP isn’t exactly reliable. Their numbers tend to differ dramatically from govt figures released 2 days later.
Might be right about ADP, but who in their right mind at the BLS would tell the truth, right now? Trump fired their chief back in August when they released data he didn't like. Even one of the heads of the American Enterprise Institute vouched for both her personal and the BLS report's integrity, but she was still gone.
This post was edited on 10/1/25 at 2:59 pm
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