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Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:26 am to ManBearTiger
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Do you honestly think anyone is dumb enough to believe such a ridiculous statement?
Do you realize how much this happens on big military installations? Especially domestic issues turning violent?
I was stationed at a base with 30,000 soldiers then at a second base with >50,000 soldiers. "Active shooter situations" happen with some regularity at the mega-installations. I'd bet most who were active duty on here have been locked down at least once for it.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:27 am to AbuTheMonkey
Nope never been
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:29 am to ManBearTiger
I always wonder why we never hear of these types of things happening on Marine bases. That's not to say that this type of stuff doesn't happen on Marine bases, because it has. But it just seems like this type of thing happens mainly on army, AF, and Navy bases.
I could be completely off base with this though.
I could be completely off base with this though.
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 10:30 am
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:32 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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off base
The unintentional pun
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:32 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Far fewer bases
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:34 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I always wonder why we never hear of these types of things happening on Marine bases. That's not to say that this type of stuff doesn't happen on Marine bases, because it has. But it just seems like this type of thing happens mainly on army, AF, and Navy bases.
I could be completely off base with this though.
It does happen there occasionally, but from what I've seen:
1. They keep a tighter lid on info
2. It's simply a smaller service than the other three - fewer people means fewer crazy people
3. They're better than the others at keeping a leash on and then kicking out malcontents
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:34 am to AbuTheMonkey
So you're really going to stick to the tall-tale of having been on base(s) with a real active shooter situation- not a drill, not a lockdown- several (a miinimum of four) times huh?
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:39 am to ManBearTiger
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So you're really going to stick to the tall-tale of having been on base(s) with a real active shooter situation- not a drill, not a lockdown- several (a miinimum of four) times huh?
Twice, and yes. It's not that unusual. "Active shooter situation" can mean a lot of things, not always someone rampaging through a base shooting everything that moves.
Google "Fort Lewis troubles" for a little taste. That place was crazier than hell for a while.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:42 am to AbuTheMonkey
Twice is believable and somewhat remarkable, in the literal sense.
Several, which definitely implies 4 or more, is not.
Several, which definitely implies 4 or more, is not.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:46 am to terd ferguson
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AP is reporting murder/suicide. Probably a domestic situation. Around 2001 when we got back from deployment a guy on my first boat found out his wife had been cheating on him. He put the kids in a closet, shot her, then shot himself. This sort of shite happens in base housing more than most people realize.
Sounds like a nuke....I bet it was a nuke
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:46 am to TigerFanInSouthland
I spent most of my childhood growing up on various AFB's.
I don't recall of any on base murders. Only shootings were done by us kids with BB guns or wrist rockets.
An acorn from a wrist rocket can ruin your day.
I don't recall of any on base murders. Only shootings were done by us kids with BB guns or wrist rockets.
An acorn from a wrist rocket can ruin your day.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:47 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I always wonder why we never hear of these types of things happening on Marine bases. That's not to say that this type of stuff doesn't happen on Marine bases, because it has. But it just seems like this type of thing happens mainly on army, AF, and Navy bases.
Marine boys are too busy fricking each other to be caught up in a love triangle with a woman...
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 10:51 am
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:47 am to ManBearTiger
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Do you honestly think anyone is dumb enough to believe such a ridiculous statement?
Several times? I mean, really?
It's not far fetched. I was at Pope AFB years ago when we all were put on lock down because of a domestic shooting at Bragg. No one ever used the term active shooter. That is a new age terror media hype terminology, but could have been considered one in today's use of it.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:50 am to Trauma14
The shooting occurred on Medina-annex/Lackland AFB, TX. This is the side where we train our TACP, SERE, CCT and PJ trainees. I lived on that side and worked for several years up to one year ago. It is a heavily wooded area and we train live fire everyday.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:50 am to ManBearTiger
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Twice is believable and somewhat remarkable, in the literal sense.
It happened once at Benning when it was a domestic violence thing turned into a standoff. It happened again at Lewis when two soldiers raped a girl in the barracks and were on the run and thought to be armed (they weren't).
Like I said, Lewis was a crazy place during the latter half of the wars. The Bales massacre, the Maywand kill teams, and the LTC trying to hire a hit man on his wife and then blow up the state capitol (the stuff that made the news from there) was just scratching the surface. That was a wild arse place.
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Several, which definitely implies 4 or more, is not.
Should have said "multiple" or something else. I meant more than one.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:51 am to Rebel
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I spent most of my childhood growing up on various AFB's.
I don't recall of any on base murders. Only shootings were done by us kids with BB guns or wrist rockets.
An acorn from a wrist rocket can ruin your day.
You also probably didn't live on base when the longest American war ever was ongoing and military personnel having been deployed multiple times over.
Fort Bragg had several murders/suicides in the years I served (2001-2005)
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:53 am to AbuTheMonkey
In the persons defensed who said he has been on base/post several times during active shooter situation, he is correct. In the military world it happens more often that civilians realize and especially on Army post. I've served 16 years so far and am up to 8 not including time as an Army brat.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:03 am to 20MuleTeam
That sounded a lot better in your head didn't it?
Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:27 am to AbuTheMonkey
I was locked down at Hohenfels, Germany when an MP took his M-16 from the arms room during his lunch. He had gone home unexpectedly and found his wife with another guy. They didn't notice him, so they were still there when he came back. He killed them both and fled to the woods. After a long stand off, he tried to kill himself with a shot to the chest, but the bullet missed his heart. Don't know what became of him.
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