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re: Abraham Lincoln radically changed the nature of the Civil War on this day 161 years ago
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:10 am to bad93ex
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:10 am to bad93ex
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Former slave traders of the north no longer needed them as they had plenty of immigrant families to exploit in their factories.
This is actually a good point. Also, the natives might have an argument for being taken advantage of first-half of 19th century around trading
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:13 am to RIPMachoMan
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99.9% of posters here don't have the bloodlines I'm sure they like to think they are from Dixie royalty
Something like 50% of families in Mississippi and South Carolina owned at least 1 slave. Across the rebellion states as a whole, about 20% of families owned at least 1 slave.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:18 am to GetCocky11
Point taken... I was exaggerating.
50% is staggering
50% is staggering
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:19 am to GetCocky11
quote:Yon middle class taxpayers are the slaves now. Where have all the Abe Lincoln’s gone, baw?
slave
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:21 am to shinerfan
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Did he sign it?
Uh, yeah. He did. February 1, 1865.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:23 am to RIPMachoMan
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Point taken... I was exaggerating.
50% is staggering
Over 50% of the total populations of South Carolina and Mississippi were slaves. Slavery was everywhere. In South Carolina, some counties were >80% slaves.
In Louisiana, Georgia, Florida, and Alabama, the slave populations as a % of total population was over 40%.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:25 am to RIPMachoMan
Slavery was much more common in the South than neo-Confederates would like to admit. My last name is so uncommon that it’s essentially one of a kind in the world. There are quite a few black Americans in 2023 with that same last name. We were blue collar Americans for the most part during that period.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 11:26 am
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:29 am to RollTide1987
Never mind. I have already butthurt these weak asses with a cartoon.
This nation is doomed.
This nation is doomed.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:32 am to RollTide1987
Lol at the guy who asked if Lincoln signed the 13th amendment.
South lost baws, it's ok
South lost baws, it's ok
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:33 am to GetCocky11
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Slavery was everywhere
Was curious so looked it up in 1860...
Total Pop Rank, Total Pop, Free Pop, Enslaved Pop, % Enslaved
05 Virginia. 1,596,318 1,105,453 490,865 30.7%
11 Georgia 1,057,286 595,088 462,198 43.7%
14 Mississippi 791,305 354,674 436,631 55.2%
13 Alabama 964,201 529,121 435,080 45.1%
18 South Carolina 703,708 301,302 402,406 57.2%
17 Louisiana 708,002 376,276 331,726 46.9%
12 North Carolina 992,622 661,563 331,059 33.4%
10 Tennessee 1,109,801 834,082 275,719 24.8%
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 11:36 am
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:36 am to GetCocky11
quote:That is TOTAL fricking horseshite.
Something like 50% of families in Mississippi and South Carolina owned at least 1 slave. Across the rebellion states as a whole, about 20% of families owned at least 1 slave.
Slaves were extremely expensive. A slave in 1800 could easily cost $1000. Much more than the average person even made in a year.
Then you had upkeep. Another adult human to feed, clothe, and house.
Only the wealthy owned slaves. Idiots like you spreading your revisionist history.
Most of the South was very poor. They could barely afford to feed themselves and their families.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:37 am to gumpinmizzou
quote:
Lol at the guy who asked if Lincoln signed the 13th amendment.
I mean, technically, a president has no role in the constitutional amendment process. No signature is needed.
However, if you look at the original document in the archives, Lincoln did put his signature on resolution sending the amendment to the states.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:37 am to RIPMachoMan
quote:
Total Pop Rank, Total Pop, Free Pop, Enslaved Pop, % Enslaved
05 Virginia. 1,596,318 1,105,453 490,865 30.7%
11 Georgia 1,057,286 595,088 462,198 43.7%
14 Mississippi 791,305 354,674 436,631 55.2%
13 Alabama 964,201 529,121 435,080 45.1%
18 South Carolina 703,708 301,302 402,406 57.2%
17 Louisiana 708,002 376,276 331,726 46.9%
12 North Carolina 992,622 661,563 331,059 33.4%
10 Tennessee 1,109,801 834,082 275,719 24.8%
Link that source, please.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:38 am to Screamin Jay
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Only the wealthy owned slaves.
Ulysses S. Grant was not a wealthy man during the antebellum period.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 11:39 am
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:38 am to Screamin Jay
quote:
That is TOTAL fricking horseshite.
Slaves were extremely expensive. A slave in 1800 could easily cost $1000. Much more than the average person even made in a year.
Then you had upkeep. Another adult human to feed, clothe, and house.
Only the wealthy owned slaves. Idiots like you spreading your revisionist history.
Most of the South was very poor. They could barely afford to feed themselves and their families.
The 1860 Census is a beautiful thing.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:38 am to RIPMachoMan
quote:
This is actually a good point. Also, the natives might have an argument for being taken advantage of first-half of 19th century around trading
Oh they got fricked hard on just about every agreement with the United States government but the current repayment to them is doing them zero favors.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:42 am to GetCocky11
quote:"At least 20% owned one slave."
The 1860 Census is a beautiful thing.
Only the wealthy could afford slaves.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:44 am to Screamin Jay
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:45 am to Screamin Jay
quote:
"At least 20% owned one slave."
Only the wealthy could afford slaves.
You know how you can get a loan to a buy a car in 2023? Now translate that to the 1850s.
Did I just rock your world?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:47 am to RIPMachoMan
quote:Whitey sure did multiply quick if those figures are to be believed, and the black reproduction numbers would have had to stall to reach the percentages of today.
1860 Census - Enjoy
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