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re: A white and black teen get in a fight at NJ mall but only the black teen is shown cuffed
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:57 pm to Masterag
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:57 pm to Masterag
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You’re honestly asking this question?Because without it you have no society.
Is this sarcasm or a joke?
Assuming not, we've never had equal treatment in the history of mankind and society has somehow carried on and prevailed. There is no such thing as equality. Someone will always have more money than you, more cars than you, more properties than you, etc.
Equality is simply an unattainable idea that "they" use to keep people living under slave mentality, giving the common folk an illusion to believe in so that they think someone is actually fighting for them.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:00 pm to Masterag
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Assault is physical contact with the express purpose to do harm or injure
Assault is "an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact."
We can play semantics all day long on assault. It doesn't matter though. The question was who instigated the fight. The black kid made contact first.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:05 pm to subtle
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we've never had equal treatment in the history of mankind and society has somehow carried on and prevailed. There is no such thing as equality. Someone will always have more money than you, more cars than you, more properties than you, etc. Equality is simply an unattainable idea that "they" use to keep people living under slave mentality, giving the common folk an illusion to believe in so that they think someone is actually fighting for them.
You’re conflating “equality” and “equal treatment.” Obviously people will never be equal in any sort of measurable way, and I’m clearly not advocating for equal outcomes; which are in a totally separate category of thought than equal treatment by law enforcement, which is what this is. In that regard I will repeat, if people aren’t being treated equally by the law who are engaging in the exact same act at the exact time and we cannot say that is wrong, then we have no society.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:09 pm to subtle
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Assault is "an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact."
If that’s your standard, which legally speaking it’s not the standard. But let’s pretend that it is, then yelling at someone and wagging your finger in their face would certainly create an apprehension of imminent harm.
I can play semantics all day long, and I’m quite good at it.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:10 pm to Masterag
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By the very definition of assault the black kid made the first contact.
Incorrect. Assault is physical contact with the express purpose to do harm or injure. Pushing someone’s hand out of your face doesn’t fit that description; but shoving them absolutely does.
This is the correct view. However, in this case that's not really relevant. It was a fairly equal fight, and when the cops arrived, it didn't matter who instigated it. Some dipshits in this thread are claiming that the ot is racist because we aren't in arms against the police in this video. This is all because the video showed the black kid getting cuffed and then the video cut out before they cuffed the white kid. If you listen to the endoctrinated bitch recording, you can tell it's a misleading clip. Both kids got cuffed and who cares how exactly it happened...nothing to see, move on with life. Everything is not racially motivated like people want it to be.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:13 pm to Masterag
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if people aren’t being treated equally by the law who are engaging in the exact same act at the exact time and we cannot say that is wrong, then we have no society.
We may have something we can agree on here. The reason we are seeing society decline is because of the sheer fact that we don't have people being treated equally by the law. Liberal cities have proved this over the last year with catch and release. We've also had numerous instances recently of people being favorably treated unequally, for instance in the case of BLM rioters who are having their sentences (even for crimes such as murder) cut in half of what they normally would be because they were protesting this mythical equal by the law concept.
Strange times we live in.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:15 pm to Masterag
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then yelling at someone and wagging your finger in their face would certainly create an apprehension of imminent harm.
I suppose if you're one that possesses low impulse control and the inability to deescalate a situation by laughing and walking away.
You can play the contrarian bit to your heart's desire. Who made the actual first physical contact? We all know who.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:15 pm to slackster
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Are you stupid or just dumb?
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And the white kid never ran. Kid grew up learning respect. Stuck up for himself in a fight (doesn’t matter who started it), and when the cops come, stops and respects the law. Such a common trait in the typical bad youth in BR or NOLA.
It’s fricking hysterical that you’re obviously proud of the white kid and see nothing wrong with how the whole thing went down.
Read the thread before you post. See my post above yours. I'm not proud of anything. I think the situation went down as typical. A fight happened and then one person got cuffed first...how can it happen any other way? You problem seekers are obviously bored with your lives when you watch this video and find an issue.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:17 pm to slackster
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It’s fricking hysterical that you’re obviously proud of the white kid and see nothing wrong with how the whole thing went down.
So is your anger directed specifically at the white kid, and his actions, or how the police handled things?
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:20 pm to Steadyhands
Your first post in the thread is to give the white kid kudos for sitting down after the cop left him to go kneel on the other detained kid.
Let that sink in for a moment.
Then realize the white kid stood up and stood over the cops and the kid on the ground, and the cops didn’t do shite about it. People both white and black have been shot by cops for much less.
Let that sink in for a moment.
Then realize the white kid stood up and stood over the cops and the kid on the ground, and the cops didn’t do shite about it. People both white and black have been shot by cops for much less.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:21 pm to subtle
The police. Seems pretty clear.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:21 pm to subtle
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I suppose if you're one that possesses low impulse control and the inability to deescalate a situation by laughing and walking away. You can play the contrarian bit to your heart's desire. Who made the actual first physical contact? We all know who.
Both kids had the opportunity to walk away, neither did. Paragraph is irrelevant.
Again, physical contact to remove someone’s hand out of your face does not fall under the legal definition of starting a fight. Pushing someone however, does.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:22 pm to Steadyhands
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You problem seekers are obviously bored with your lives when you watch this video and find an issue.
It says plenty that you believe this was handled well.
I couldn’t care less about the race component, that’s simply poor policing.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:23 pm to slackster
Why is the thread anchored?
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:27 pm to slackster
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Then realize the white kid stood up and stood over the cops and the kid on the ground, and the cops didn’t do shite about it. People both white and black have been shot by cops for much less.
While I don't like that it happened like that, the kid didn't run, he didn't pull out a weapon and attack the cops, and the cops didn't shoot him. Are you implying that they should have shot him? Maybe you watch too many highlighted and edited clips in news. These cops did their job, and the threat you're seeking didn't exist. Do you think in reality, most people are actually peaceful and comply and that it's primarily news and social media that program you to think this should have resulted in a different outcome? Think about that and let it sink in for a moment.
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:32 pm to slackster
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Then realize the white kid stood up and stood over the cops and the kid on the ground, and the cops didn’t do shite about it. People both white and black have been shot by cops for much less.
You're trying to see way too much in to the situation to justify your outrage over it. They're children. If these were two adult males the female cop would not have set the man down and turned her back to him.
But to play devil's advocate you also need to consider the male female issue at play here. People, like many in this thread, that engage in victim mentality will find something to complain about in any scenario. The actions of police have been hindered so deeply by victims that maybe the female cop talked herself out of engaging the young male and putting her hands on him, thus deciding to help the male cop with the first kid so that the male cop could then move on to the second kid. You see that now all the time with female cops needing to be called in to the scene in order to perform searches on female perps in fear of the female perp crying victim and claiming sexual harassment by the male cop.
The constant crying foul of police actions, and the defund the police movement, are exactly why we don't have this mythical equally under the law concept. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:56 am to QJenk
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One kid is on top going to town on the other kids face
Did we watch the same video? This isn't even close to accurate nice job trying to build a narrative that fits the woke bullshite.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:09 am to Byrdybyrd05
Based on that video, the white kid may have been about to get cuffed. Conveniently cuts off a the female officer grabs his hands.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:12 am to subtle
Ah, I only watched it once, must have missed That.
But honestly it’s a dumb mall fight between stupid teens. No one was seriously hurt. This shouldn’t be news
But honestly it’s a dumb mall fight between stupid teens. No one was seriously hurt. This shouldn’t be news
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