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re: A white and black teen get in a fight at NJ mall but only the black teen is shown cuffed

Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by subtle
Houston, Texas
Member since Jul 2019
86 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:19 pm to
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ETA: yeah white kid definitely pushed first. Some bullshite. If you are gonna cuff one you gotta cuff both.


Nonsense. The white kid pointed his finger at the black kid which then prompted the black kid to make the first contact by pushing his arm away. Then the white kid pushed back.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5610 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:20 pm to
I’d like to see the entire video.


But bc the white kid won, it’s now a racially bias event, and the the only reason the black kid was cuffed was bc he was black...

The lil teen white girl giving the narration is part of what’s wrong.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15365 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:23 pm to
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Even if they weren't racially motivated it LOOKS like they were racially motivated the way they handled the black kid over the white kid.


Yup. Let's even take race out of it. One kid is on top going to town on the other kids face. The cops break it up and their main priority is to put the one losing the fight in handcuffs.

That just seems backwards imo. If your goal is to arrest both, shouldn't you be trying to take down the guy on top first?
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
18630 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:23 pm to
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He had the kid detained and down before the female came over. He was not throwing blows at the kid.


I said the white kid was throwing blows.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68926 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

I said the white kid was throwing blows.


So was the black kid, he actually threw the first punch.
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
18630 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:26 pm to
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Also, how do you even know the age of these two kids?


Because I'm not an illiterate dumbass. I read the article that was in the first post.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18813 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:28 pm to
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Male cop was handling the black kid. Female cop was handling the white kid. Female stops handling white kid because he sits on the couch and is chilling and isn't struggling. Female cop proceeds to walk and check on male cop. She then walks back and appears to be in the process of handcuffing white kid who is still there and hasn't run off. Then the video cuts off. You can hardly even tell the black kid is black because of his white sweatshirt with the hood up. This article is bull shite.


If you think that was equal treatment you’re kidding yourself. Male cop clearly had the kid handled and he wasn’t struggling. White kid was on top raining down blows when the cops came, clearly in the most aggressive position, yet treated the most delicately.

I’m hardly one to make a claim of bias, but this is literally as black and white as it gets.
Posted by subtle
Houston, Texas
Member since Jul 2019
86 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:29 pm to
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Because I'm not an illiterate dumbass. I read the article that was in the first post.


Cool. My bad on that. I didn't care enough beyond clicking the first link and watching the video.

Regardless, what does age have to do with anything? Were they supposed to pause the aggression and ask each other their ages before throwing down? Were the cops supposed to say "which one of you ruffians is the oldest so we can handcuff you first?"
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6025 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:34 pm to
It may not have been equal treatment but you had two different cops handling two different perps. If you're going to squawk like a woman at anybody do it at the female cop who didn't drop the white kid like the male cop did the black kid. Not the male cops fault the chick didn't slam the dude because he was chilling on the couch.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6819 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:35 pm to
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That just seems backwards imo. If your goal is to arrest both, shouldn't you be trying to take down the guy on top first?


They did, and then he chilled out and respected the law by waiting.
Posted by subtle
Houston, Texas
Member since Jul 2019
86 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:36 pm to
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If you think that was equal treatment you’re kidding yourself. Male cop clearly had the kid handled and he wasn’t struggling. White kid was on top raining down blows when the cops came, clearly in the most aggressive position, yet treated the most delicately.

I’m hardly one to make a claim of bias, but this is literally as black and white as it gets.


Why the frick does there need to be "equal treatment"? You'll don't even realize how programmed you are to try and seek out equality and equity in everything. It's never going to exist. Quit wasting your energy getting upset over something you'll never be able to control.

It's like we have some Mandella Effect thing going on with this video where we are seeing two different realities. The white kid was not "raining down blows" when the cops came. He was on top punching the black kid on the couch only. Watch it again. As soon as the black kid went to the actual floor not a single punch was thrown. He was just standing over him holding him down, likely because he knew the cops were responding and within eyesight.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28579 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:36 pm to
Um…yeah bro wtf. They were equal aggressors throughout the thing and nothing to warrant that disparate treatment.
Posted by subtle
Houston, Texas
Member since Jul 2019
86 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

Umm if you're instigating fights in the mall, then obviously you didn't learn all that much respect.


The black kid is the one saying "let's go outside". Who instigated what and does it matter?
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6819 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:39 pm to
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quote:
And the white kid never ran. Kid grew up learning respect. Stuck up for himself in a fight


Umm if you're instigating fights in the mall, then obviously you didn't learn all that much respect.


We don't know who instigated the fight. They're both guilty in my opinion. Difference is this kid stuck around when so many others would have ran off in an instant of being let go. How is that not respecting the law? Kids get in fights all the time...that's shitty. You can still respect the law after the fact or run off like a thug pos.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18813 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:42 pm to
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It may not have been equal treatment but you had two different cops handling two different perps. If you're going to squawk like a woman at anybody do it at the female cop who didn't drop the white kid like the male cop did the black kid. Not the male cops fault the chick didn't slam the dude because he was chilling on the couch.


Why don’t you leave the bs name calling out and discuss like an adult who knows how to control their emotions. Can you do that?

I didn’t say who treated whom unequally, I merely pointed out that this is a clear case of unequal treatment. And yes, the female cop is the most responsible party in this regard. However, the male should have been the one to handle the larger aggressor; so it is on him, too.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18813 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:46 pm to
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Nonsense. The white kid pointed his finger at the black kid which then prompted the black kid to make the first contact by pushing his arm away. Then the white kid pushed back.


Getting your hand slapped for putting it in someone’s face in a threatening manner is not license for you to shove that person to the ground.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5610 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:52 pm to
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We don't know who instigated the fight. They're both guilty in my opinion. Difference is this kid stuck around when so many others would have ran off in an instant of being let go. How is that not respecting the law? Kids get in fights all the time...that's shitty. You can still respect the law after the fact or run off like a thug pos.


None of that matters in this day and age. It’s all about the race baiting agenda.

My daughter played in a volleyball tournament this last weekend, and destroyed the girl across from her. My daughter is white, and the other girl was black. They started callin bs calls against my daughter just bc she was better.

Her coach ( who is black) saw what was going on, and started raising hell about it.. Long story short bc she is the only white girl on an all black team with a black coach they shut up pretty fast..
Posted by subtle
Houston, Texas
Member since Jul 2019
86 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:52 pm to
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Getting your hand slapped for putting it in someone’s face in a threatening manner is not license for you to shove that person to the ground.


He didn't slap it. He forcefully pushed it away. This is what resulted in ego kicking in and prompting the white kid to push him back. Anyone of us would have done it at that age standing around in front of our friends not wanting to look like "the bitch".

I do find it funny though that I'm getting downvoted so hard for pointing out the obvious in that the black kid instigated the fight by making the actual real first contact. Who cares if someone has a finger in your face? Either control your emotions or face the consequences for your actions. By the very definition of assault the black kid made the first contact.
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 10:53 pm
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18813 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:53 pm to
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Why the frick does there need to be "equal treatment"?


You’re honestly asking this question?Because without it you have no society.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18813 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:56 pm to
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By the very definition of assault the black kid made the first contact.


Incorrect. Assault is physical contact with the express purpose to do harm or injure. Pushing someone’s hand out of your face doesn’t fit that description; but shoving them absolutely does.
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