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re: A small "sample" look at car pricing from 2010 to 2018

Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:14 am to
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:14 am to
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Can't the same be said for some select housing markets?


Maybe, but I'd rather put my money in real estate and have a much great chance of seeing an "appreciation" of my funds rather than an immediate 20 % depreciation of my funds in the first year of ownership of a vehicle. And again, a 15 % depreciation in year two and three and so on ...


This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:16 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:15 am to
And now do a wage growth comparison.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:15 am to
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In 2010, the Ford F-150 for the highest model available had a starting MSRP of $46,740. In 2018, the F-150's highest model has a starting price of $64,275. That's a difference of $17,535 or roughly a 27 % price increase. Put another way, the price increased $2,191 per year over the last 8 years.


You're ignoring the increase in features, performance, etc that the F150 has had from 2010 to now. The new trucks are light years better than than the 2010.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:16 am to
Sort of but housing loans are still harder to come by than auto loans and usually the second thing people let go (after credit cards) in times of financial crises are vehicles.

I do think housing in the US will see an adjustment sooner than later but it will not be on the level of '07-'08 and it will not be as soon as the auto industry does.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:17 am to
I realize that vehicles on the road today are far superior to their counterparts 7 or 8 years ago. But we're talking in one case, a 27 % increase in pricing - this would be great and justified in the worker that is actually building the truck saw a 27 % increase in their pay in 8 years, but the likelihood of that is not a high probability.
Posted by Winston Cup
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:17 am to
Seriously some of our paychecks are larger than $1,000
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:17 am to
I need a graph bro.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:17 am to
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I still have the window sticker in a file cabinet with all my other financial shite.

I'm trying to figure out what value there is into keeping the window sticker on an 8-9 year old vehicle for your financial life

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:18 am to
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But we're talking in one case, a 27 % increase in pricing - this would be great and justified in the worker that is actually building the truck saw a 27 % increase in their pay in 8 years, but the likelihood of that is not a high probability.


Materials cost more, R&D costs money. Inflation is also a thing. I know you're not dumb enough to not know these simple concepts.

ETA: I see I've angered the resident geniuses that I guess think all the additional features on vehicles shouldn't cost anything extra.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:41 am
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39880 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:18 am to
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usually the second thing people let go (after credit cards) in times of financial crises are vehicles.


To further prove your point - and while he is not the end all, be all - one of the first questions that Dave Ramsey asks his callers on air is ... "so how much is your car payment? How much is it worth?" "And what is your household income?"

Sell the car! Sell the car!
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:19 am to
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I do think housing in the US will see an adjustment sooner than later but it will not be on the level of '07-'08 and it will not be as soon as the auto industry does.
Not as much rampant speculation in housing as there was leading up to the last bubble burst, so I don't think any correction will be anywhere near the same scope.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39880 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:20 am to
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Seriously some of our paychecks are larger than $1,000


It's not always about how much you make. It's about what you keep.

There are people who make 5 figures that have more net worth and savings than some people who make 6 figures.

Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68558 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:20 am to
Smarter to buy used at the moment and not have to take such a huge depreciation.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65049 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:21 am to
Thats what i bought. Sticker 49. Paid 42. I love will cover and all his posts but the facts are not correct.

LINK

Car and driver says 51k. Boom
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:23 am
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:21 am to
Economic bubble, foreclosures, etc 2006-2010...dumb people had bad credit...7 years later, their credit back to normal, so they can get in over their heads again.
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:22 am to
Most Americans are too dumb to understand interest.

They push out those loans to 10 years.

“$300 a month for that f250?!?! frick yeah I can afford that.”
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39880 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:22 am to
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Smarter to buy used at the moment and not have to take such a huge depreciation.


Depends upon your situation and the vehicle you are choosing to buy.

For instance, a Toyota Tacoma holds it value. Considerably well. So in some cases, it may actually may make better sense to buy a new Tacoma over a 1 or 2 year old Tacoma, depending upon incentives and rebates.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39880 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:23 am to
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I love will cover and all his posts but the facts are not correct.


If you have an issue with the numbers that I posted (see screenshot), take issue with JD Powers.

I trust the information that they have posted.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179274 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:23 am to
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Smarter to buy used at the moment and not have to take such a huge depreciation.




I've been looking for a Cayman GTS and the depreciation in an '18 vs a '16 with very low miles is insane. Like $20-$30K insane.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65049 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:25 am to
Check my link. I know thats an SVT. Maybe they didnt take those into account.
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