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re: A passenger airliner carrying 180 people has crashed in Tehran

Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:54 pm to
Posted by K Baw
W Monroe
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:54 pm to
Boeing statement “ Well, frick Me”
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105269 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:58 pm to
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There is no excuse you can give to make that incident right. We lied through our teeth about it. We lied about it descending on a bombing run when it was really ascending in a normal flight path. It was squawking as a civilian and most of the times they were hailed it was on a frequency they could not receive. Our ship was in their waters and the airliner was still over Iranian airspace. We f***ed up hard there.



IIIRC we quietly paid danages the families several years later.

My bet is on trigger happy air defense being the cause here too.
Posted by K Baw
W Monroe
Member since Jun 2019
659 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:59 pm to
1-10-2020- Boeing introduces the All New.... 738 passenger jet, available for immediate delivery.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:22 am to
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Very interesting that the media is blaming mechanical failure in the initial report. When was the last time the media knew what happened in an airplane crash while the wreckage is still smoldering?

Impressive indeed..


It's plausible the pilot(s) communicated their issue as they were dealing with it.

Not sure what would cause the fire in the air though.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15747 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:24 am to
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How quickly is Boeing scrambling right now to get people in the field and look for evidence of foul play?

Boeing, like other airline manufacturers, typically assists in crash investigations. However, that effort in this case could be affected by the U.S. sanctions campaign in place on Iran since President Donald Trump unilaterally withdrew from Tehran's nuclear deal with world powers in May 2018.


This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 1:28 am
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:52 am to
There are more than enough pictures hitting the internet that will help them determine what the hell happened. The post in political talk has several of them.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33723 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:04 am to
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They definitely shot it down.


Yup, have a friend on Facebook saying they have admitted already that one of their Sam sites shot it down.

Guess I should have said the friend works for one of those lettered agencies thats all over the world.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 7:17 am
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29730 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:22 am to
Al-Hadatha reporting that Iranian AA accidentally shot down the passenger plane.

Al-Hadatha
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:24 am to
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accidentally


Oops my bad
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77247 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:25 am to
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Al-Hadatha
Never heard of them and Scruffy can’t read those scribbles.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78359 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:28 am to
That is an old tweet. Not saying incorrect, but that tweet was from when the news broke. It is not new information from the 'technical difficulties.'
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 2:29 am
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
29730 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:28 am to
Translated for you Scruffy:

“News of the Ukrainian plane crashing was a result of an accidentally firing of a Iranian missile”
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77247 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:34 am to
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That is an old tweet. Not saying incorrect, but that tweet was from when the news broke. It is not new information from the 'technical difficulties.'
Believing anyone who is stating that it is due to “technical difficulties” at this time is not the logical route.

Neither is definitively stating that it is due to an Iranian missile.

It very well may be due to technical difficulties, but there are WAY too many people out there who are trying to frame Iran in the best light possible, including some of our own news agencies.

Considering the situation, “Iranian misfire” is more likely, ISO.

A “mechanical failure” at this time is just unlucky as frick.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 2:37 am
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:36 am to
Al-Hadath is a respected news outlet based in Jordan.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:37 am to
Something is definitely fricky
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78359 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:37 am to
No doubt. I imagine their defenses are on high alert so it wouldn't be surprising.

No one else is going with that explanation and Al-whatever put it out over 4 hours ago. No one picked up them as a source even though it would be a much better headline.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 2:39 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77247 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:38 am to
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Something is definitely fricky

It is just extremely odd for this to happen at this time, especially if it is actually due to mechanical failure.

Hell, Iran will have a hard time convincing people they didn’t shoot it down.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 2:39 am
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:38 am to
terd agrees
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29730 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:48 am to
167 passengers were killed:
63 Canadians
3 British Nationals
11 Ukrainians (9 of which were pilots & crew)
82 Iranians
4 Afghanistan
3 German
10 Swedes

BBC says plane passed its technical inspection just 3 days ago


This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 2:50 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77247 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:55 am to
It is just too coincidental.
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