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re: A LEOs Responsibility Is To Disobey Orders When It Is Morally or Ethically Wrong
Posted on 12/15/16 at 12:07 pm to DaTroof
Posted on 12/15/16 at 12:07 pm to DaTroof
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Sorry you're too dense to understand this.
I'm all for legalization...my best friends smoke the stuff everyday.
This is not an ethical situation though. You try to paint the folks in jail as these innocent poor victims. Most of them are not only guilty of having some marijuana anyways... For the ones that you claim are these poor victims...well guess what, they knew it was illegal at the time of consumption, so be a man and accept the consequences. They didn't have to smoke the harmless plant. They chose to smoke it, and by doing so they said the benefits outweigh the risks. I guarantee you that 99% of those in jail for it did not give a frick about any medical benefit...it was all about the high or profit from distribution. I will agree with you that it is harmless, just like drinking is mostly harmless when done in safe manor. Those that got busted with marijuana in a vehicle should be treated like a DUI or open container type of situation.
Main point is...you don't do something illegal and then make the claim that it shouldn't be illegal after getting busted. You knew it was illegal before you did it. It's the fact that you disregarded the law, not what you did. But I'm all for clearing out jails and legalizing it. Until then, if you get caught, have fun in jail.
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 12:20 pm to Steadyhands
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they knew it was illegal at the time of consumption, so be a man and accept the consequences
Ok, I'll bite even though I think you're trolling.
IF you apply this kind of logic across the board, you end up with a stagnant and antiquated legal system. At one point in time we were having this conversation about slavery, alcohol, women's suffrage, ect ect ect.
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It's the fact that you disregarded the law, not what you did. But I'm all for clearing out jails and legalizing it. Until then, if you get caught, have fun in jail.
It sounds like you're saying we should just sit back and let the legal system decide when it's time to change and that's your choice, but just remember we would not be where we are today if it wren't for people willfully breaking laws and getting locked up.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 12:57 pm to DaTroof
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It's a LEOs responsibility to stop enforcing laws that they know full well are morally or ethically wrong.
No it isn't. Quite the contrary actually. LEOs are supposed to enforce the laws on the books, whether they agree with them or not. Their job is to enforce the laws, it's the court systems job to interpret the laws.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:09 pm to brass2mouth
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LEOs are supposed to enforce the laws on the books, whether they agree with them or not. Their job is to enforce the laws, it's the court systems job to interpret the laws.
Police have discretion. They don't have to enforce anything they don't want to.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:11 pm to Barf
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Police have discretion. They don't have to enforce anything they don't want to.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:13 pm to DaTroof
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So one the comments in the thread about the citizen who was vindicated after shooting cops during a no knock raid on his home was
at least give me credit, bub
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It's a LEOs responsibility to stop enforcing laws that they know full well are morally or ethically wrong.
oh lord
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:15 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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FelicianaTigerfan
Don't be a silly bitch. You know you wouldn't write your mom a speeding ticket.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:20 pm to Barf
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Don't be a silly bitch. You know you wouldn't write your mom a speeding ticket.
Maybe not but cant say without knowing all the circumstances but you said
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Police have discretion. They don't have to enforce anything they don't want to.
You're lumping traffic citations in with felonies
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:20 pm to Redbone
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Hey libtard, your ignorance is showing.
Explain or are you too stupid to actually engage in a conversation?
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:24 pm to Steadyhands
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you don't do something illegal and then make the claim that it shouldn't be illegal after getting busted. You knew it was illegal before you did it. It's the fact that you disregarded the law, not what you did.
I've got two words for you:
Civil Disobedience
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:24 pm to Barf
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Police have discretion. They don't have to enforce anything they don't want to.
Sigh...
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:46 pm to brass2mouth
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Sigh...
Dude, nobody believes the police are under any obligation to enforce all laws equally. People who get caught committing felonies get cut lose every single day.
Police aren't even required to act. Warren vs D.C made that very clear.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:23 pm to DaTroof
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Good people will spend the rest of their lives in jail over a plant that has been proven to have substantial medicinal benefits
Simple questions for the pot enthusiasts: Have you contacted your legislator or congressman to petition to get the law changed? Do you actively support a lobbying group that keeps the issue in front of the legislators? Have you helped write a state referendum in your state to legalize pot?
If you haven't, you don't understand how these United States work.
If you haven't, you are not taking advantage of all of your rights under the First Amendment.
If you haven't, you merely want to get high and make people feel sorry for you when/if you get caught.
In other words, if you haven't, you are a hypocrite.
Maybe you have, but plenty of weed users haven't.
Cheers.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:27 pm to DaTroof
The problem is, particularly in the south, LEOs often think by arresting someone for weed, that they're doing the Lord's work. Helping put away evil drug users and protect their community. It's complete horseshite, but that's what many believe.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:31 pm to Thorny
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Have you helped write a state referendum in your state to legalize pot?
We don't have a mechanism for that in Louisiana.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:42 pm to Thorny
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Simple questions for the pot enthusiasts: Have you contacted your legislator or congressman to petition to get the law changed? Do you actively support a lobbying group that keeps the issue in front of the legislators? Have you helped write a state referendum in your state to legalize pot?
If you haven't, you don't understand how these United States work.
If you haven't, you are not taking advantage of all of your rights under the First Amendment.
If you haven't, you merely want to get high and make people feel sorry for you when/if you get caught.
In other words, if you haven't, you are a hypocrite.
Maybe you have, but plenty of weed users haven't.
Cheers.
A lot of put users are fearful of repercussions. This is particularly true for professionals that could lose their job. I've had numerous jobs were I couldn't smoke, and had to take that gamble, even here in Colorado where it is legal. Luckily, my current company doesn't test, but that's uncommon.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:45 pm to DaTroof
This country was founded on a few key moral principals, one of the main ones was that drugs are bad for citizens and democracy. If we allow citizens to smoke drugs it would endanger the very freedom that police are sworn to protect.
Get a job.
Get a job.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:52 pm to CCTider
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I've had numerous jobs were I couldn't smoke, and had to take that gamble
Serious question. Are you addicted to smoking pot or is your job just not important enough to you that youd risk losing it?
Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:07 pm to Steadyhands
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Main point is...you don't do something illegal and then make the claim that it shouldn't be illegal after getting busted. You knew it was illegal before you did it. It's the fact that you disregarded the law, not what you did. But I'm all for clearing out jails and legalizing it. Until then, if you get caught, have fun in jail.
If and when I've been popped, I definitely say it shouldn't be illegal. Buy I know what I did, and accept the consequences. I know I'm not a victim, just another person who's viewpoints are too progressive for the times. The rest of the country is catching up. It's just now, where you have a single state that's created a billion dollar industry almost overnight, where the money is becoming in favor if legalization instead of prohibition. Money is the ing thing that changes things.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:17 pm to CCTider
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The problem is, particularly in the south, LEOs often think by arresting someone for weed, that they're doing the Lord's work
I strongly disagree. Most don't care one way or another if its legalized. With it being illegal its just an easy stat and many times an easy way to break open an investigation into more serious crimes
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