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A LEOs Responsibility Is To Disobey Orders When It Is Morally or Ethically Wrong

Posted on 12/15/16 at 7:59 am
Posted by DaTroof
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2015
973 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 7:59 am
So one the comments in the thread about the citizen who was vindicated after shooting cops during a no knock raid on his home was

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the cops, sadly, often don't even know any better b/c it's how they're taught


These aren't 4 year olds, they're 40 year olds. 40 year olds that damn well should know the difference between right and wrong. The law enforcement system is supposed to be made up of people within the community for a reason. It's because people in their own communities should never enforce laws that are morally or ethically unjust. Unfortunately this happens all the time, every day. Good people will spend the rest of their lives in jail over a plant that has been proven to have substantial medicinal benefits and it's this same mindset by LEOs that will blindly throw people in jail simply because they're following orders. It's a LEOs responsibility to stop enforcing laws that they know full well are morally or ethically wrong. That is the premise of having a system made up of the people in the community. Agree or disagree?
Posted by PairofDucks
Member since Jul 2016
4992 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:02 am to
Why couldn't you have posted this as a reply in that thread?

Are you a special little snowflake whose ideas need to be specially showcased?
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:03 am to
Read about "Oath Keepers"

LINK
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 8:05 am
Posted by DaTroof
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2015
973 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:03 am to
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Why couldn't you have posted this as a reply in that thread?


It's a completely different argument and separate point altogether. Who the frick are you, the thread police?



Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:04 am to
Same for soldiers
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34849 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:04 am to
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It's a LEOs responsibility to stop enforcing laws that they know full well are morally or ethically wrong.


Great idea. Let's just let every cop decide what to do in their own.
Posted by PairofDucks
Member since Jul 2016
4992 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:05 am to
If I were, I would apparently have to disobey orders that are unjust.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:20 am to
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Great idea. Let's just let every cop decide what to do in their own.


Is that not what they do already? Go read a few bad-cop-no-doughnut threads and notice how our lovely LEO posters champion their use of discretion.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:35 am to
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Good people will spend the rest of their lives in jail over a plant that has been proven to have substantial medicinal benefits and



You could have just said illegal, an illegal plant, we would have known what you meant

It's not that hard to not smoke weed, really don't understand why you frickers make it seem like it is.

If somehow that step eludes you, there are magical places you can do it legally
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 8:37 am
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
7326 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:43 am to
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TennesseeFan25


I always enjoy the plight of the pothead.

Pothead: Man weed should like be legal because it has all these awesome health benefits like...

Me: SO which one of those diseases do you have?

Pothead: I don't have it but they should make it legal for the people that do.

Me: I agree medical marijuana should be legal.

Pothead: Not just medical, pot should be legal for everyone.

Me: So you just want to legalize pot so you can get high?

Pothead: Nah I do that already I just don't want to have the chance of getting in trouble for it, I mean nah man did you not listen to my reasoning for it.


FWIW I think we should declassify all drugs and let Darwinism take it's course. Tax the crap out of them, free up rooms in prisons, close some prisons down, and force sheriffs offices and PDs to actual keep citizens safe instead of spending inordinate amounts of time chasing drugs in order to get more federal money.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18821 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:48 am to
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DaTroof
Hey libtard, your ignorance is showing.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6745 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:21 am to
While I agree some orders should be over ruled based on morals and ethics, a fricking plant has nothing to do with morals and ethics. Arresting someone for stealing a loaf of bread because they're starving would involve a moral decision. You do not need a plant. It may have benefits, but it is not necessary for most people to consume. Most people do it based on a want. Morals and ethics only related to things people actually need. You get the dumbass award today.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20855 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:24 am to
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It's because people in their own communities should never enforce laws that are morally or ethically unjust.


This is dreamland.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:27 am to
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You do not need a plant.


You're part of the problem if you form your opinions based on what you feel someone does or does not need. How about you let people decide for themselves?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:30 am to
quote:

A LEOs Responsibility Is To Disobey Orders When It Is Morally or Ethically Wrong



you must be high if you think everyone shares the same idea of moral and ethical
How bout they enforce the laws as written by the legislature and/or interpreted by the courts?
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6745 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:31 am to
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quote:You do not need a plant.

You're part of the problem if you form your opinions based on what you feel someone does or does not need. How about you let people decide for themselves?


Looks like we have a runner up for statement of the day. Good job.

You don't decide what you need. You either need it or you don't. You can decide what you want all day long though, buddy.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:37 am to
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You don't decide what you need. You either need it or you don't. You can decide what you want all day long though, buddy.


Oh, alright.
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3492 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:42 am to
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Me: SO which one of those diseases do you have?


None because I smoke weed duh...
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6745 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:44 am to
quote:

quote: You don't decide what you need. You either need it or you don't. You can decide what you want all day long though, buddy.


Oh, alright.


Whether you think its cool or not, I'm right.

Were you sick that day in school, when they taught the difference between need and want?
Posted by DaTroof
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2015
973 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 11:04 am to
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Were you sick that day in school, when they taught the difference between need and want?


You sound exactly like a dumbass cop.

The point isn't whether or not I need it you dumb motherfricker. The point is that this is a harmless plant. It doesn't impact you or anyone else if I or anyone else smokes it. It's not even a violent offense, yet people are being imprisoned for the rest of their lives for possessing it. That's morally and ethically fricked up. No one disagrees that most of the advocates for the legalization of marijuana don't need it as a medical necessity. The point is that it's harmless and doesn't impact your life if me or anyone else chooses to ingest it. It's illegal because pharmaceutical companies, police unions, alcohol companies, and for-profit prison companies lobby so hard against it because they stand to lose profits when it gets legalized. Sorry you're too dense to understand this.
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