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re: A hundred school shootings a year wouldn't change my mind
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:28 am to UpToPar
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:28 am to UpToPar
Yeah background checks do not work. Im sure many would have a clean bill of health before purchasing a gun.
Idk the solution but gun will never be banned. Does anyone know how he got in the building? My kids school is pretty locked down in terms of entry, I feel comfortable but it’s also all concerning.
Idk the solution but gun will never be banned. Does anyone know how he got in the building? My kids school is pretty locked down in terms of entry, I feel comfortable but it’s also all concerning.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:29 am to The Spleen
ooof, swing and a miss there Spleen. try again.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:30 am to SammyTiger
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Especially from the people who see children get shot and run to comfort their guns.
So now you are running on emotion, rather than logic.
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You’re argument is that people should scream about every single issue all the time or they don’t really care and that’s nonsense.
Or, you can not "run and scream" about any issue, and rationally talk about them. I know, foreign concept.
Hell, i'd settle if the same people that have mass hysteria with school shootings, held the same emotions when inner city black children are shot in the head in their sleep during a drive by.
Overall, i don't care what you hyperventilate about. Yes, what happened yesterday was awful, tragic, and horrifying. I try to put myself in the shoes of those parents. If that happened at my kids school, how would i react?
1) Where was the security?
2) Why weren't the buildings locked?
3) Would any "sensible gun legislation" have prevented that specific act?
In the end, that's what we want. Stop this from happening again, right? Well, short of confiscating and banning all guns, what "law" would have prevented this. I've yet to see something that convinces me that a specific law would have stopped this. All i see is the same generic "common sense gun legislation" parroted but it's such a fake term with NO MEANING. Explain what that legislation does.
And while i think reopening mental health institutions would help this current epidemic of mental degridation, i can't tell you that it would prevent someone who snapped, shot his grandmother, and then shot a bunch of kids from happening.
There is no "1 law" that stops this. The only thing that could deter this from happening, would be full lockdown of all schools and massively increased security. But, that's not a viable solution, is it? Nor is it foolproof.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 9:33 am
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:30 am to greenwave
Real talk
People who want guns banned largely do it because they hate people who like guns, not because they think it will make any difference. It's just a war for them to wage against a perceived enemy.
People who want guns banned largely do it because they hate people who like guns, not because they think it will make any difference. It's just a war for them to wage against a perceived enemy.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:31 am to Vamos Brandonos
If a bus carrying these same children was ran off the road by a drunk driver or a driver texting, no one would be advocating for the banning of alcohol or cell phones.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:33 am to BugAC
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Wanting guns "banned or restricted" doesn't stop violence.
Oh really


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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:33 am to Vamos Brandonos
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A hundred school shootings a year wouldn't change my mind
Maybe if you lost a child it would.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:34 am to mindbreaker
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Oh really

Didn't know violence was ONLY related to guns. Now that you know it doesn't, expand your graph.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 9:35 am
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:34 am to mindbreaker
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mindbreaker
You need to learn to read.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:35 am to mindbreaker
Yeah let’s do what Mexico is doing
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:37 am to BayouBlitz
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BayouBlitz
Do you think it wise to base decisions on purely emotions?
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:37 am to Vamos Brandonos
Police, Military, and hunters are the only ones who should have guns. Downvote away..
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:38 am to UpToPar
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You need to learn to read.
so you are willfully ignoring the correlation between being the country with the highest number of guns per resident and also leading in the amount of gun related homicides and school shootings
I swear some of you are amounting to putting your fingers in yours ears and saying I can't hear you over and over again.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:38 am to Double Oh
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Police, Military, and hunters are the only ones who should have guns. Downvote away..
What about women?
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:38 am to mindbreaker
Rarely do you see someone dumb enough to post not just one, but three severely flawed graphics to support their unsupported argument.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:38 am to BugAC
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So now you are running on emotion, rather than logic.
They are the same in this instance.
What’s the logical way to stop tragedy?
You’re answer seems to be frick it you can’t, so don’t try.
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Or, you can not "run and scream" about any issue, and rationally talk about them. I know, foreign concept.
No we can have a rational discussion. But you keep wanting to make it about fentanyl or drowning. You don’t want to actually discuss the issue.
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Hell, i'd settle if the same people that have mass hysteria with school shootings, held the same emotions when inner city black children are shot in the head in their sleep during a drive by.
Again, how are we supposed to have a meaningful conversation about this when your biggest argument is that we don’t actually care. I agree It’s a shame it takes a mass shooting to get people to car abo it gun violence. I also Believe we need gun control that’s aimed at the gun deaths that are routine and not just mass shootings that get all the media coverage.
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Well, short of confiscating and banning all guns, what "law" would have prevented this.
Well, you said it.
You can’t change human nature, but we’re making it very easy to kill people in this country.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:39 am to ChairmanOfThisBoard
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Rarely do you see someone dumb enough to post not just one, but three severely flawed graphics to support their unsupported argument.
Please by all means tell me where they are flawed? Move them goalposts as you will
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:40 am to mindbreaker
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so you are willfully ignoring the correlation between being the country with the highest number of guns per resident and also leading in the amount of gun related homicides and school shootings
No, you don't know what the word "violence" means.
Keeping thinking violence ONLY involves guns.
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I swear some of you are amounting to putting your fingers in yours ears and saying I can't hear you over and over again.
You aren't making rational and intelligent points.
We are on page 9 of this thread and you or anyone has yet to lay out what specific law prevents what happened yesterday.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 9:40 am
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:41 am to mindbreaker
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so you are willfully ignoring the correlation between being the country with the highest number of guns per resident and also leading in the amount of gun related homicides and school shootings
He said banning guns does not stop violence. You then went on to post a bunch of graphs relating to gun violence. Banning guns certainly slows gun violence. It does not stop violence.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:43 am to SammyTiger
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They are the same in this instance.
Explain.
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What’s the logical way to stop tragedy?
You’re answer seems to be frick it you can’t, so don’t try.
As i stated and asked you repeatedly, you tell me what law would stop yesterday,and we can "try".
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Well, you said it.
You can’t change human nature, but we’re making it very easy to kill people in this country.
So, your "law" to prevent this is to ban/confiscate all guns? How is that a viable option? How does that work? How do you implement it?
For you saying my answer is "if you can't don't try", your answer seems to be "just do anything" regardless of the consequences.
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