re: A hundred school shootings a year wouldn't change my mind

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you’re saying they wouldn’t fight back?

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I never said citizens wouldn't fight back.

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Interesting considering the lack of Judeo-Christian principles in society is what leads to the disregard to human life.

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Wow really look at all those non Christian countries with all their school shootings...oh wait

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Pedophilia is the fringe right's version of racism

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No pedophilia isn't enough you have to add in Satanic pedophilia. It adds spice to it.

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Gun nuts have made it abundantly clear that their right to possess their pew-pews is more important than a school kid’s right to attend school without threat of being riddled with bullets.

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I'll give up my right to own firearms when you give up your right to vote. Your rights are no more important or special than mine.

You ain't getting my guns. Ever. The sooner you come to grips with that reality the better it will be for you

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cahoots

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A few things about that article and the bill.

1) It passed unanimously in the house and senate with ZERO nays.
2) That WAPO link is full of shite. The new bill that was passed UNANIMOUSLY removed all of the language that WAPO claimed was false. So as much as you want to claim "Republicans wanted to stop the bill from going forward" that is patently false and they just wanted the language that tends to give government more powers, removed. See below.

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• Section 1 of the bill previously expanded Obamacare-type provisions in Georgia to mandate mental health and substance abuse treatments which would have resulted in all Georgians, at a time of record inflation and crazy high gas prices, being forced to cover the cost of rising premiums due to these mandates. This mandate was completely REMOVED, and the bill now provides a means for parity to be enforced in Georgia without causing a rise in everyone’s premiums.

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• All throughout the bill, prior to being amended, it defined mental illnesses and substance abuse disorders via the DSM-5 and WHO. This language has been stricken and either ties back to more specific definitions already in code or non-floating definitions from the APA prior to January 1, 1981. Though the mandate is already stricken, this further ensures that morally questionable treatments such as sex changes won’t be forcibly funded by taxpayers.

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• Section 3 of the bill previously made it so that someone could be locked up against their will with nothing more than a reasonable belief that they might need mental health treatment in the near future. This has been COMPLETELY removed, preserving the old standard which requires an imminent threat be posed to oneself or others or have a law enforcement officer witness a penal offense. This is a massive victory for civil liberties.

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• All the councils and commissions previously created in this bill have been removed and instead those tasks have been given to the already existing commission for which the dissolution is extended to 2025. This is a big win for limited government conservatives who don’t want to expand government.
The bill is still not perfect, but nearly every concern raised has been fixed. Now is not the time to get complacent. We must get this bill back through the house without having it sent to a conference committee where the same “republicans” who overwhelmingly passed the original fatality flawed bill can muck it up.

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Again, i'm asking you, as well as others, if you are so cynical about gun ownership, how do the innocent protect themselves from the predators? How do women protect themselves, without a gun?

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More guns in the hands of good people.
Less guns in the hands of bad people.

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It's almost as if......a reform of sorts.....would help with this...

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I'll give up my right to own firearms when you give up your right to vote. Your rights are no more important or special than mine.

You ain't getting my guns. Ever. The sooner you come to grips with that reality the better it will be for you

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You could have just said "You're right," and left it at that..

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I'm simply arguing the point that your guns don't protect you from your government, so let's not use that in the discussion about violence.

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Well, i'd argue they do. It's a schrodinger's cat situation. I argue that the existence of the 2nd amendment has curtailed outright authoritarianism. You might argue it hasn't. Only one way to prove that, and that is to remove the 2nd amendment (as you stated you are not for).

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Let's not justify the murder of 19 children by saying it's something we have to accept in order to be able to own guns to stand up to the government.

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Well, see above argument. But my main argument is how do you protect the innocent, without guns? How do the vulnerable defend themselves? The police is often just a reactionary force, especially in today's world with Democrat entities stating "defund the police" or anytime a violent felon is shot, the media apparatus is there to crucify him, assuming the felon is black and the cop is white. The fact is, police mostly respond, but also patrol assuming the resources exist. But police can't patrol everywhere all of the time.

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If you want to say you want guns to protect you from a criminal, ok, yeah, now we're debating with realistic arguments.

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That is my main argument. I want guns to protect me and my family from the bad guys. That isn't limited to random acts of violence, but also to the political class. Again, the protection from authoritarianism is a much longer discussion to have, but we can look at other countries that are "gun free" and how those countries treat their citizens with no regard to reprisal. (See Cuba, China, Venezuela)_