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Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:35 am to Breesus
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Fracking is a terribly dangerous thing
Posted on 4/26/14 at 10:59 am to lsutiger2010
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So intricate you don't even know how to spell it
Auto correct genius. Did you actually feel smart or witty typing that?
Friend owns Platinum. Look it up clown
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:02 am to USMCTiger03
you're*
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:03 am to BROffshoreTigerFan
What's wrong with Chesapeake?
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:04 am to TH03
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since it isn't mentioned in the suit or article and the wells were drilled. why is that hard to understand?
You read the suit? Don't you think there was info at the trial not written in the article dumbass?
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:17 am to GeeOH
The biggest issue with fracking is the potential exposure to silica. There are about 6-8 different ways that silica is introduced into the atmosphere, and with that it carries a major risk of lung disease such as cancer or silicosis.
In addition to that, diesel exhaust (total and elemental carbon) can cause many health problems.
In my industry, there has been quite the surge of fracking companies requesting industrial hygiene assessments to ensure their workers and the environment are protected.
In addition to that, diesel exhaust (total and elemental carbon) can cause many health problems.
In my industry, there has been quite the surge of fracking companies requesting industrial hygiene assessments to ensure their workers and the environment are protected.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:21 am to okietiger
Take your pick. Bad accounting, bad business practices, fudging safety numbers and production outputs.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:44 am to LSUZombie
Silicosis is not an imminent threat while fracing. Working at a sand mine is. You'll breathe in more silica following someone down a dirt road than you will being around a frac job or living near a sand mine.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:47 am to GeeOH
pertinent info such as protests or suits filed prior to drilling? that's not some little detail buried in paperwork. the family even said they weren't against fracking or drilling and that comment was made after the trial was over.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:49 am to TH03
It's FRACING. As in Fracturing. There is NO K!
Not just singling you out THO3. It appears no one in this thread has a clue.
Not just singling you out THO3. It appears no one in this thread has a clue.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:51 am to Motengator
It's true fracing has no "k". It's the media's way of showing they know nothing.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:54 am to Motengator
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Silicosis is not an imminent threat while fracing. Working at a sand mine is. You'll breathe in more silica following someone down a dirt road than you will being around a frac job or living near a sand mine.
None of what you just said is true.
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In cooperation with oil and gas industry partners, NIOSH collected 116 full shift air samples at 11 hydraulic fracturing sites in five states (Arkansas, Colorado, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, and Texas) to determine the levels of worker exposure to silica at various jobs at the worksites.
Many air samples showed silica levels for workers in and around the dust generation points above defined occupational exposure limits
Of the 116 samples collected:
47% showed silica exposures greater than the calculated OSHA PEL.
79% showed silica exposures greater than the NIOSH REL of 0.05 milligrams per cubic meter (mg/m3).
9% of all samples showed silica exposures 10 or more times the PEL, with one sample more than 25 times the PEL.
31% of all samples showed silica exposures 10 or more times the REL, with one sample more than 100 times the REL.
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NIOSH identified seven primary sources of silica dust exposure during hydraulic fracturing operations:
Dust ejected from thief hatches (access ports) on top of the sand movers during refilling operations while the machines are running (hot loading).
Dust ejected and pulsed through open side fill ports on the sand movers during refilling operations
Dust generated by on-site vehicle traffic.
Dust released from the transfer belt under the sand movers. Dust created as sand drops into, or is agitated in, the blender hopper and on transfer belts.
Dust released from operations of transfer belts between the sand mover and the blender; and
Dust released from the top of the end of the sand transfer belt (dragon’s tail) on sand movers.
Link so people can read up about the health concerns regarding silica:
LINK
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 11:56 am
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:58 am to lsumatt
For the record, I am not a "fracer"
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:58 am to Motengator
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It's FRACING. As in Fracturing. There is NO K!
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:08 pm to TH03
Man, Wtf is so hard for you. It doesn't matter if they aren't against it...that doesn't mean you're ok with dying from it!
I ask again, how could they protest it if they had no clue of the dangers?
I ask again, how could they protest it if they had no clue of the dangers?
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:49 pm to LSUZombie
Well, I reckon my years working at a sand mine as a HSSE rep and being heavily involved with MSHA, was worthless. I guess all my certifications and performing the MSHA air samples myself were worthless as well. The monitors they use to take these air samples with, are attached to personnel directly involved with handling silica based materials. The monitors may as well be placed inside sand bags or in the tankers that bring the sand. Most of that sand comes in gradients of 40/70, 20/40, 30/50, 16/30. You'll see the same kind of sand in your kids sand boxes. It is run through a screen house under vacuum, before being stored in silos. It is then fed into trucks and hauled directly to job sites. Those OSHA levels that you quoted are based on an 8 hour exposure at 40 plus hours a week. Since FRAC jobs do not come anywhere close to those exposure times and the employees are all wearing respirators AND no one living within the vicinity of the job is in harms way, Nothing I stated was untrue.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:53 pm to GeeOH
when did I say they were okay with dying from it? y'all keep reading a lot of stuff into what I'm saying.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:54 pm to Motengator
fracing looks stupid and my phone autocorrects it to fracking so IDGAF
Posted on 4/26/14 at 1:27 pm to TH03
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when did I say they were okay with dying from it? y'all keep reading a lot of stuff into what I'm saying.
Cause you keep saying they should have somehow known ahead of getting sick that it was a harmful situation.
We aren't reading anything into your stuff. You are commenting over your head of knowledge. Why can't they agree to not argue against fracing, but when they find it has caused illness, file suit?
You keep blaming the family saying they should have protested beforehand or some other dumb comments.
Let's assume the fracing caused their sickness. DO you really think the fracing co went to their house before they started and said, "we will be fracing next door to your land. Are you ok with possibly being poisoned and your children being sick? do you wave all of your health concerns just to let us frac?"
You have NO point! Could you show us the document that releases an oil company of all liability if they are neglectful?
If not, shut up with blaming the family for not doing something ahead of time...
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