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re: A big F*ck You to Scalpers
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:27 pm to LucasP
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:27 pm to LucasP
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I'm not saying that house flipping is some noble endeavor that we as a society should hold in high regard
i dont know about you, but almost every house flip story is a horror story for the buyer..they are experts in the art of illusion and most of the 'upgrades' they make are shitty contractor grade quality and in some cases, downright criminal acts in hiding foundation issues or installing fake GFCI outlets, etc.
i think they're the scum of the earth (its not the cute couple you see on hgtv)
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 2:29 pm
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:30 pm to CAD703X
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dont know about you, but almost every house flip story is a horror story for the buyer..they are experts in the art of illusion and most of the 'upgrades' they make are shitty contractor grade quality and in some cases, downright criminal acts in hiding foundation issues or installing fake GFCI outlets, et
Wow, I've gotta admit I'm not that familiar with it. But you've got me sold.
But on the other hand, the practice has the potential to be a good thing. If an honest person did it then they COULD provide a real service, effect others positively, and be compensated fairly for it. Scalping on the other hand doesn't have that opportunity, there's no service to provide. All you can do is negatively effect others.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:31 pm to PBnJ
I agree with this. I figured i'd be able to get two tickets for my wife for christmas. Logged into the que at 10am sharp, didnt get tickets.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:34 pm to LucasP
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Scalping on the other hand doesn't have that opportunity, there's no service to provide. All you can do is negatively effect others.
without scalpers, your assumption is that everyone who bought tickets when they went on sale are fans correct?
so without scalpers, anyone who wasn't available in the < 2 minutes they were on sale..let's face it..Adele tix were not going to last more than a minute or 2 with or without scalpers..shouldn't have the opportunity to see the concert?
what you're saying is you wouldn't be mad right now for missing the cut and having NO opportunity to go to ebay or stubhub because you knew all the really great fans had the tickets.
you were not a great fan because you didn't get them in that tiny window.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:34 pm to PBnJ
Who is Adele and why should I care?
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:38 pm to CAD703X
Weak argument. The same number of people will get to go, but the deciding factor of who gets to go will change. Right now it's who spends the most money (which honestly I don't have a problem with, if the money went to a deserving benefactor), without scalpers it would be timing.
Given the choice between those deciding factors, I'd go with timing rather than who is willing to give the most money to freeloading leaches.
Given the choice between those deciding factors, I'd go with timing rather than who is willing to give the most money to freeloading leaches.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:39 pm to CAD703X
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what you're saying is you wouldn't be mad right now for missing the cut and having NO opportunity to go to ebay or stubhub because you knew all the really great fans had the tickets.
you were not a great fan because you didn't get them in that tiny window.
I'd be upset, but less upset than now. At least I lost out to someone with better timing, not some sniveling little opportunist.
ETA and just to be clear, I don't give a shite about Adele
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:42 pm to LucasP
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People who don't understand supply and demand. If people don't want to pay 3x face value, they won't, thus forcing the prices down before the show.
I think everyone who graduated high school understands this. It doesn't make it ethical or in anyway beneficial to anyone involved other than the non contributing pieces of shite who scalp.
It is absolutely beneficial to people who have better things to do than stand in line forever and a day hoping they'll get tickets at face value (i.e. below market value) before they sell out.
I have zero problems with scalpers. If I don't want to pay the asking price then no big deal. If you are hell-bent on paying face value (and thereby getting a big discount) then get your arse in line and quit whining about it.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:45 pm to foshizzle
I always love it when the macho men America is full of women crowd bitches about ticket scalpers and cries about it. 
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:46 pm to foshizzle
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It is absolutely beneficial to people who have better things to do than stand in line forever and a day hoping they'll get tickets at face value (i.e. below market value) before they sell out.
I have zero problems with scalpers. If I don't want to pay the asking price then no big deal. If you are hell-bent on paying face value (and thereby getting a big discount) then get your arse in line and quit whining about it.
This might have made sense if we were talking about a Bush concert twenty years ago, or if we were talking about an iPhone. But we're not. When was the last time you bought tickets to a show? You don't need camping gear anymore.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:57 pm to PBnJ
ITT: The OT is stupid, as usual.
Which one of you assholes is scalping Chee Weez tickets on StubHub for the Dec. 26th show at Cypress Bayou for $35 each?!
Don't you know there are people that want to pay face value?!
Which one of you assholes is scalping Chee Weez tickets on StubHub for the Dec. 26th show at Cypress Bayou for $35 each?!
Don't you know there are people that want to pay face value?!
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:03 pm to PBnJ
I didn't want to go see Adele. Know why I didn't buy tickets anyway and resell them for double? Because I'm not an a-hole.
Sorry but if you do this it doesn't make you some savvy businessman or economist. It just makes you a piece of shite.
Sorry but if you do this it doesn't make you some savvy businessman or economist. It just makes you a piece of shite.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:16 pm to LucasP
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Tool tickets.
Maynard gonna Mayne
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:25 pm to DeathValley85
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Sorry but if you do this it doesn't make you some savvy businessman or economist.
No kidding. frick everybody who ever bought a product that is in demand and resold it for a profit.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:26 pm to PBnJ
On the bright side, I was able to log on to ticket master this morning and pick up my tickets to see John Anderson at the Dixie National Rodeo. Fees amounted to almost 50% of the ticket price, which was ridiculous though.
Ticketmaster is better than that other site (maybe Live Nation, not sure what the name is). I've tried to get tickets to a few events on there before and never made it out of the "waiting room".
Ticketmaster is better than that other site (maybe Live Nation, not sure what the name is). I've tried to get tickets to a few events on there before and never made it out of the "waiting room".
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:27 pm to PBnJ
It's called supply and demand. the face was clearly priced 50% too low.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:31 pm to LeonPhelps
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It's called supply and demand. the face was clearly priced 50% too low.
We covered this on page four.
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People who don't understand supply and demand. If people don't want to pay 3x face value, they won't, thus forcing the prices down before the show.
I think everyone who graduated high school understands this. It doesn't make it ethical or in anyway beneficial to anyone involved other than the non contributing pieces of shite who scalp.
You're describing the mechanism by which a shitty thing happens to justify it. That's like saying cancer is a good thing and people against it don't understand mitosis.
But congrats on trying to sound smart.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:57 pm to LucasP
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Weak argument. The same number of people will get to go, but the deciding factor of who gets to go will change. Right now it's who spends the most money (which honestly I don't have a problem with, if the money went to a deserving benefactor), without scalpers it would be timing.
You probably don't invest in the stock market, what the scalpers di is no different that a person that buys shares in XOM, they are both risking their money in the hope that the stock shares or concert tickets will have a greater value in the future. If either make money it is because they were willing to risk capital who or how someone benefits from the transaction is irrelevant.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 4:01 pm to PBnJ
know how i know you're gay?
you rage over not getting Adele tickets
you rage over not getting Adele tickets
Posted on 12/17/15 at 4:02 pm to EA6B
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You probably don't invest in the stock market, what the scalpers di is no different that a person that buys shares in XOM, they are both risking their money in the hope that the stock shares or concert tickets will have a greater value in the future. If either make money it is because they were willing to risk capital who or how someone benefits from the transaction is irrelevant.
This is a better analogy. Except society does benefit from investment in companies. They can use that capital to produce goods and services, so someone actually benefits besides the investor. With scalping, that doesn't happen.
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