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re: 78 years ago today
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:45 pm to BatonrougeCajun
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:45 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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Fun fact: nobody authorized dropping the bomb on Nagasaki and Truman was pissed when he found it we hit ‘em again
sorry, i do not believe this. Truman was definately the man in charge. he also had other options to end the war; you mentioned firebombing them into submission and that was one option. also, did you know that we had stockpiled the worlds largest supply of poisonous gas to drop on their population and we had stockpiled enough agricultral gas to completely wipe out their rice crops. we were NOT going to let their military get away from what they did to the world. Truman was a very decisive president and dropping the Abombs actually was the option that killed less Japanese. thank god it worked. there were plenty of their army that wanted to continue to fight until the last man. it was their emporor that finally called it off.
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:26 pm to biohzrd
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In that situation, yes we should. We were at war, and the line between humans, and countries get drawn. We destroyed millions of Japanese to save thousands of American men. Every now and then throughout history you just have to go all in, and wipeout your opponent so bad, that their will to fight is gone.
Around 200k dead and injured combined from both bombings. After the Japanese and American death in Saipan and Okinawa and the civilian suicides, the predicted death toll from and invasion would have resulted in more than a 1m casualties. Allied leadership were also contemplating a siege of the Japanese islands to starve them to surrender. Japanese hardliners would not have surrendered quick enough and many would have starved. The fire bombing raids killed more then the two nukes and they weren’t maki by Japan surrender.
From wiki:
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Operation Meetinghouse, which was conducted on the night of 9–10 March 1945, is the single most destructive bombing raid in human history.[1] 16 square miles (41 km2; 10,000 acres) of central Tokyo were destroyed, leaving an estimated 100,000 civilians dead and over one million homeless.[1] In comparison, the atomic bombing of Hiroshima in August 1945 resulted in the immediate death of between 70,000 and 150,000 people.
Dropping the nukes saved many more lives then were lost, because it forced Japan to surrender and directly ended the war.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:31 pm to Jim Rockford
I wonder if all these people who are against the bomb realize that the firebombing of Tokyo and other cities killed substantially more people than Little Boy and Fat Man. On March 9 alone, 100,000 people turned into fried rice in Tokyo.
Edit: above post beat me to it. Sorry
Edit: above post beat me to it. Sorry
This post was edited on 7/16/23 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:32 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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Fun fact: nobody authorized dropping the bomb on Nagasaki and Truman was pissed when he found it we hit ‘em again
Would you care to cite your source? If not, I've got to call bullshite. Nothing of that magnitude happens without approval from way up the pecking order.
Nagasaki was one of five or six cities on the original target list. Obviously, Hiroshima was bombed first. The day of the Nagasaki bombing, another city was the primary target (Niigata, perhaps?). Cloudy weather over the primary caused the bomber crew to divert to the secondary target, Nagasaki.
Bad luck for Nagasaki.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:38 pm to biohzrd
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In that situation, yes we should. We were at war, and the line between humans, and countries get drawn. We destroyed millions of Japanese to save thousands of American men. Every now and then throughout history you just have to go all in, and wipeout your opponent so bad, that their will to fight is gone.
Ending WWII then also saved a great many Japanese. The fire bombing raids were killing more and they would have continued.
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Bombing of Tokyo, (March 9–10, 1945), firebombing raid (codenamed “Operation Meetinghouse”) by the United States on the capital of Japan during the final stages of World War II, often cited as one of the most destructive acts of war in history, more destructive than the bombing of Dresden, Hiroshima, or Nagasaki. Although the precise death toll is unknown, conservative estimates suggest that the firestorm caused by incendiary bombs killed at least 80,000 people, and likely more than 100,000, in a single night; some one million people were left homeless. The Japanese later called this the “Night of the Black Snow.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:38 pm to L1C4
We lost 2 extended family members in the Pacific theater because of them. frick Japan. They asked for it.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 6:06 pm to mauser
Until the day she died my grandmother would fight you over Truman. Said his decision to drop the bomb saved my dad from having to invade Japan. He’d already been in the S. Pacific nearly 3 years and thy were preparing an in invasion of the mainland. Semper fi.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 7:28 pm to BabyTac
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No life is more important than another solely based on where they were born.
bullshite. Me and mine are more inportant than you and yours and if the reverse isn't true for you then something is wrong with you and you aren't worthy of them.
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