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re: 76ers ax singer's national anthem performance over 'We Matter' jersey

Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:40 pm to
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Like I'm gonna spend time trying to enlighten a brick wall


oh ok

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Every discussion you have on here with people involves you being intellectually dishonest when various facts are presented.


oh ok

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It's pathetic.


oh ok


You did better just by saying I can't explain the bullshite I typed earlier. It is just my misguided opinion. Instead you lie about calling my arguments false. I am not a liar. You are hombre.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134318 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:41 pm to
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The same country that decided not to allow laws that would prevent someone from expressing their beliefs. Has their national anthem performed by a company that takes issues with their contracted singer wearing a shirt that says "we matter". I mean this is pretty weak attempt to express Patriotism in my opinion but whatever.


None of this drivel answered my question about which team you rep, son.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:42 pm to
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None of this drivel answered my question about which team you rep, son.



I mean why don't you try and explain to me how what happened made sense?

Pelicans, they won't let me change my user name.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:43 pm to
You are a legend in your own mind my friend.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:44 pm to
She gets her pub without even doing it. SMH.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134318 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:44 pm to
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why don't you try and explain to me how what happened made sense?


Already did earlier itt. It's quite simple.

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Pelicans, they won't let me change my user name.



AD is the truth Going to the Spurs' home opener vs. The Pels on Saturday and I'm looking forward to it.

Good luck to y'all this season
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:44 pm to
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You are a legend in your own mind my friend.


First the insult now the false praise. This screams "frick this guy!" "I have nothing of substance to refute him"
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:47 pm to
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Already did earlier itt. It's quite simple.



I must have missed it.


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AD is the truth Going to the Spurs' home opener vs. The Pels on Saturday and I'm looking forward to it.



Good, I don't think we will make much noise this season, but we have the makings of a playoff team a year or so down the road. The west is just too deep for a team like the Pelicans.

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Good luck to y'all this season



Same to y'all
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:47 pm to
See the thing is, multiple people have explained to you the opposite viewpoint on this topic. It's not my fault you either close your eyes when scrolling through responses to your post or are just too stupid to comprehend them. I'm not gonna regurgitate stuff that's already been explained because it is pointless with you. You will just ignore anything that makes your viewpoint look idiotic.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24125 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:49 pm to
You're lucky. You can't wear t-shirts to work at a lot of places.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:49 pm to
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The same country that decided not to allow laws that would prevent someone from expressing their beliefs. Has their national anthem performed by a company that takes issues with their contracted singer wearing a shirt that says "we matter". I mean this is pretty weak attempt to express Patriotism in my opinion but whatever.


The country decided not to allow laws that would subject someone to government persecution for expressing their beliefs. This same country has made it clear that private entities are pretty much free to do as they please with respect to free speech.

Look, I'm the same person that thinks the uproar over the Kaepernick stuff is ridiculous, but I'm not opposed to the 49ers or the 76ers stepping in and controlling how their product is displayed.

I'd be arguing along side you if this woman or Kaepernick were prosecuted in a court of law for their actions.
Posted by chris504
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2012
588 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:51 pm to
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The same country that decided not to allow laws that would prevent someone from expressing their beliefs. Has their national anthem performed by a company that takes issues with their contracted singer wearing a shirt that says "we matter"


The constitution only protects freedom of expression from government prosecution. No one will throw her in jail for wearing a "We Matter" shirt. But that doesn't mean that a privately owned company who hired her to perform at their event has to allow it while she's representing their team/company in front of a national audience.

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Why don't you enlighten me? Cause I'm wearing a we matter t shirt tomorrow to work.


Better bring an extra shirt just in case your boss doesn't agree with your shirt or thinks it may draw unwanted negative attention from customers or co-workers.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134318 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:52 pm to
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The west is just too deep


I feel like we've been saying that for 15 years now Pretty much true every year, too.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:53 pm to
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See the thing is, multiple people have explained to you the opposite viewpoint on this topic. It's not my fault you either close your eyes when scrolling through responses to your post or are just too stupid to comprehend them. I'm not gonna regurgitate stuff that's already been explained because it is pointless with you. You will just ignore anything that makes your viewpoint look idiotic.


You mean the point they are saying she is on "company time". I mean that would be a pretty bullet proof argument if I was claiming that the 76ers are practicing any unlawful acts. But what you and the rest of those tards fail to comprehend is I merely asked why does the 76ers hate freedom? I mean they want her to sing about the land of the free, however she is prohibited to freely express her self. She was never told of any wardrobe restrictions until 2 minutes before singing the anthem. I mean whatever you can cling to the company time thing all you want. Just keep my name out your mouth if you can't explain to me how they are promoting unity if they refuse to accept the belief of a group of people who are claiming they matter.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61479 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:54 pm to
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...they brought her there to sing the anthem, not use the 76ers platform for her own personal activism.
/thread
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:55 pm to
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The constitution only protects freedom of expression from government prosecution. No one will throw her in jail for wearing a "We Matter" shirt. But that doesn't mean that a privately owned company who hired her to perform at their event has to allow it while she's representing their team/company in front of a national audience.


I never said they violated her constitutional rights. I just asked about the 76ers true belief in freedom of speech.

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Better bring an extra shirt just in case your boss doesn't agree with your shirt or thinks it may draw unwanted negative attention from customers or co-workers.



I am more of a ask for forgiveness than permission kind of guy. I mean he doesn't have an issue with the guy that wore the south will rise again t shirt. So I would assume I am good.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:58 pm to
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I feel like we've been saying that for 15 years now Pretty much true every year, too.



Y'all have been part of the reason for that. Spurs have had a good run for the last 20 years.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 2:04 pm to
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You mean the point they are saying she is on "company time". I mean that would be a pretty bullet proof argument if I was claiming that the 76ers are practicing any unlawful acts. But what you and the rest of those tards fail to comprehend is I merely asked why does the 76ers hate freedom? I mean they want her to sing about the land of the free, however she is prohibited to freely express her self. She was never told of any wardrobe restrictions until 2 minutes before singing the anthem. I mean whatever you can cling to the company time thing all you want. Just keep my name out your mouth if you can't explain to me how they are promoting unity if they refuse to accept the belief of a group of people who are claiming they matter.




And you continue to fail to understand that the freedom to expression goes both ways. The 76ers simply exercised their freedom to not want their singing of the anthem to be a showcase for political statements and publicity stunts. And lol at using the term "promoting unity" as if that is what Streeter was trying to do.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24125 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 2:06 pm to
Why do you keep trying to apply "freedom of speech" to a private organization? It doesn't apply at all.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134318 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 2:09 pm to
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Y'all have been part of the reason for that. Spurs have had a good run for the last 20 years.


Yeah it's been crazy growing up with SA doing their thing. Guess they decided they didn't feel like sucking just because Timmy retired
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