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re: 76 year old fatally shoots her husband in the hospital

Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:32 am to
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:32 am to
Some hospitals are over loaded, resulting in process incompetence, that may just handle this by definition.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76196 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:32 am to
It’s like the people who say “I don’t want to live past 80 bc I’ll have poor quality of life”. frick that, I want the option to live to 1000. Then when I’m ready, I’ll take myself out. Even most terminally ill have the strength to pull a trigger or connect a hose to the exhaust pipe.
Posted by Redbonebandit
Member since Dec 2019
1061 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:35 am to
Hospice is a Medicare and medicaid benefit, if you can't afford it, its free.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18644 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:38 am to
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Well Canada is fricking retarded and shouldn’t be hailed as a standard of anything.


Yeah, I’m not. I’m treating them as a cautionary example.

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But medical and pharmaceutical companies don’t get money from that. They profit from your suffering.


The poster I responded to said in a medical setting, and Canadian medical companies are profiting from that, which is why private companies are advertising suicide services now.

You can wave it off as “but it’s Canada” all you want, but the reality is that if medically assisted suicide were legal here, it’d be profitable and advertised just the same.

As a libertarian minded person I still think such things should be legal, but we should also be careful what we wish for, too.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70916 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:42 am to
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What are they doing? I honestly don't know...



Aggressively promoting assisted suicide. Their equivalent of HHS touted all the money they could save by convincing sick people to off themselves. Also offered suicide to a disabled veteran who wanted a motorized seat to help her get to the second floor of her house.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18644 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:47 am to
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What are they doing? I honestly don't know...


They opened up medically assisted suicide as an option for more people. Now suicide is profitable, there are suicide service ads on television, though on YouTube they have to put behind a content warning.

All is Beauty ad glamorizing suicide

Just a couple months ago a Canadian woman in her 50s was suggested to undergo medically assisted suicide when she complained about wait times getting the health care she needed in their system, there was a bit of an uproar about it and Trudeau had to make a comment on it

Again, everyone should be able to choose to go on their own terms, but there’s another side to this if not done right.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41873 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:50 am to
Well, that'll make for an awkward afterlife meeting.

Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26449 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 12:01 pm to
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It baffles me how people are not allowed to go out on their own terms in a medically oversen, safe and humane way - especially those that have terminal conditions.


They can, aside from suicide, it’s what hospice is supposed to do….

Unfortunately, a lot a family members refuse to follow advanced directives and avoid palliative care when the said person can’t make the decision for themselves.

I’ve seen family members do some crazy shite keeping their loved ones alive because of their guilt ridden minds. It’s terrible

A lot of time they use the “I don’t want to play God” reasoning, which they are playing God by not letting nature take its course.
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 12:06 pm
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 12:15 pm to
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I’ve seen family members do some crazy shite keeping their loved ones alive because of their guilt ridden minds. It’s terrible



Agree. It’s absolutely awful.

I’ve told my family I will haunt them from the afterlife if anyone does that to me.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by ob1pimpbobi
College Station
Member since Jul 2022
2637 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 12:22 pm to
We put our pets down so they won't suffer. But people, frick em. Suffer till your last breath. Stupid.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4543 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 1:58 pm to
Wouldn't taking a handful of pills, a syringe infection, or just covering his mouth and pinching his nostrils be easier?
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26449 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 1:59 pm to
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Daughter from California syndrome


I’ve never known there was an actual term for this or ever hear it used.

It’s crazy how many times the palliative worker in our hospital tells us during rounds , we’re waiting for so and so in whatever state to make a decision. It’s crazy.

What’s sad is, we always have quite a few pts who are elderly with one foot in the grave who are full codes. fricking drives me crazy.
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98145 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:32 pm to
Ralph Harms was a retired Green Beret, a professional chef, an amateur and professional boxer, and finished 29 marathons. When he was diagnosed with terminal cancer, he used California's new death with dignity law to go out on his own terms. This is a 20 minute video that chronicles his last days and what went into his decision LINK

obituary
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118965 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:58 pm to
I have told my wife if I get some terminal disease I will not be going through treatments that will deplete all my lifes savings and leave her in debt after I did. Not gonna do that. I will do the minimal to deal with the pain and that will be it. No way I want 40+ years of my working life going to a hospital and not my family.
Posted by BlueRunner
Member since Nov 2022
754 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 6:47 pm to
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It baffles me how people are not allowed to go out on their own terms in a medically oversen, safe and humane way - especially those that have terminal conditions.

The govt don't want you dying by your own hands without the govt getting all of their cut first.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98145 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:14 pm to
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The govt don't want you dying by your own hands without the govt getting all of their cut first.


Allowing terminally ill people to die and foregoing the last few months of high level care would save the government tremendous amounts of money.
Posted by BUGAtGOAT
Munroe
Member since Oct 2015
1824 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:43 pm to
lol

You act like the government wants to save money

They win by racking up more fake debt
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98145 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:49 pm to
wat
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10307 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:53 pm to
Why don’t these people just take a handful of pills? Scarring people who find gunshot suicide victims is incredibly selfish.
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