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re: 737max crashes in Ethiopia. Killing 157

Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:17 am to
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32258 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:17 am to
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plane crash is probably my number one irrational fear


Is it really irrational though?
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40834 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:17 am to
Kenya is pretty unsafe these days. Nairobi is still relatively safe but it's not safe outside the city anymore.
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:17 am to
Addis Ababa isn’t exactly remote

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:18 am to
There was a hotel bombing in Nairobi just a few months ago.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84567 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:19 am to
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You been getting a lot of calls from people free falling to their deaths lately?


How the frick would anyone know when someone passes out or if they are conscious before slamming into the ground in a massive collision with fire burning the plane up....


So you’ve never heard of a black box
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26678 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:21 am to
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Is there a rational reason to avoid the Max8 at this point?


Only 350 or so have been delivered to airlines worldwide on a book of 4,700 orders. There have now been 2 accidents already since October.

Boeing has an existing warning message out to all 737 Max owners stating that a false sensor indicator can cause the plane to suddenly nose dive......

Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40815 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:21 am to
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It’s crazy that in such a remote part of the world on a random flight that 8 Americans were on board. Guessing it had to do with charity/church mission type stuff.


Ethiopian Airlines is trying to become the hub of Africa. It is in a great spot just like Dubai/Doha for international travel. It isn't odd or "remote" at all.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77205 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:50 am to
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that’s when you order a bunch of in-flight alcohol to prepare for the landing.


Xanax 2mg and a couple of glasses of wine and you won't care if you live or die.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:52 am to
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plane crash is probably my number one irrational fear


Seems rational to me.

My dad investigated crashes.

First time I flew commercial, age 18, after stewardess pointed out the exits, asked if we had questions.
Hits the buzzer.
Ding ding.

Yes.
Where is my parachute?
No one gets them.
I puked.

Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26678 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:14 am to
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So you’ve never heard of a black box


That’s for the pilots and if you are in a nose dive at 33,000 feet, you are going to pass out, trained or not. Pilots also don’t have to wait for depressurization to get their masks on
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:16 am to
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I think the rapid change in altitude causes most people to pass out if the plane essentially falls out of the sky, no ?


No. If the plane remains pressurized during the fall, then the passengers will remain conscious, albeit terrified. If depressurization occurs at high altitudes, then passengers will lose consciousness quickly unless they have access to oxygen masks.

In the case of the Air France 747 in 1996 that came apart due to a fuel tank explosion, those passengers who didn’t die in the the blast were instantly killed upon exposure to the high altitude air. A few of them may have had time to gasp but because they were moving at hundreds of kilometers per hour, most died immediately.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:19 am to
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How the frick would anyone know when someone passes out or if they are conscious before slamming into the ground in a massive collision with fire burning the plane up....


CVR and FDR.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51663 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:27 am to
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I don't worry about takeoff or landing, but cruising at 33k freaks me out a bit. Just the idea of falling out of the sky at that height and having to deal with it for a few minutes is scary as hell
Irrational. I have millions in life insurance and wife/kids are going to sue for millions more if I go down, so not worried. I'm right with God (I think, although I may get reprimanded by Saint Peter for some of my posts here) so if I go, I won't go with regret for the past and am okay with my family's future.

I generally sleep like a baby before taking off, and wake up many times after the stews have handed out drinks.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51663 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:33 am to
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Addis Ababa isn’t exactly remote


Looks like Shreveport
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
91877 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:34 am to
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Looks like Shreveport

looks like they even have a Monseur's
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
6231 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:45 am to
That’s the second large plane to crash in a couple weeks. There was that 767 cargo plane a couple weeks ago. What’s going on?? And with the 767, they said pilot “lost control”. Can an OT pilot explain to me how a pilot just loses control of a commercial airplane?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61468 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:47 am to
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Why does this matter? It’s a sad story to all of us no matter the background of the dead.


B/c instead of being a horrible tragedy for 1 country it's a horrible tragedy for 33 countries.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:49 am to
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Plane is like 3 months old....hopefully they didn’t frick up the oil change


Someone else posted this, but you don’t want to know how many things are considered “known issues” when a plane is certified for service.

I work in the Aerospace Industry and I can tell you it makes you look at flying (even a simple 30 minute flight) differently...
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6741 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:51 am to
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Can an OT pilot explain to me how a pilot just loses control of a commercial airplane?


Structural failure.
Loss of situational awareness.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:51 am to
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Can an OT pilot explain to me how a pilot just loses control of a commercial airplane?


Not a pilot but there’s a billion different things that could happen to cause a pilot to lose control of a plane.
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