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re: 737max crashes in Ethiopia. Killing 157

Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:07 am to
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:07 am to
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At times. There's been plenty of cases of people surviving until they hit though.


Plenty?
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3992 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:09 am to
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they need to ground this aircraft until the issue is resolved.



The Lion Air crash was due to faulty maintenance and crew training. The cause of this crash is yet undetermined.

The 400+ Max aircraft currently flying are not having any unusual issues. Grounding 400 aircraft is a little premature at this moment.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:10 am to
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At times. There's been plenty of cases of people surviving until they hit though.


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Plenty?


Absolutely. Unless the plane is ripped apart at a high altitude, there's a really good chance of survival.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17564 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:27 am to
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A plane crash is probably my number one irrational fear


Same here. I have flown many times, and this fear doesnt stop me fron flying at all. But every flight I have to say many prayers, and every single bit of turbulence or any bump I feel my chest start beating outside my chest. I really wish I could get over that. I don't do it on purpose...
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:30 am to
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Going to jump out on a limb here and say they need to ground this aircraft until the issue is resolved.



Get back to me when it happens on a US-flagged carrier
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24171 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:32 am to
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And Ethiopian airlines has one of the best fleets and pilots.


Ignorant question here, but do they hire pilots from other countries mostly? I’ve never heard of Ethiopian Air Force being outstanding?

I’m guessing they do flights to somewhere like London and most of their pilots are British? Like I know a guy that flies for Korean air and lives in Seattle.
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 9:33 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26677 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:33 am to
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At times. There's been plenty of cases of people surviving until they hit though.


You been getting a lot of calls from people free falling to their deaths lately?


How the frick would anyone know when someone passes out or if they are conscious before slamming into the ground in a massive collision with fire burning the plane up....

Pretty sure science/biology says they pass out
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 9:34 am
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40831 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:36 am to
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Ethiopian Airlines


Pilot died of starvation at takeoff.


Ethiopian Airlines is better than a lot of US carriers.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40831 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:39 am to
Most of their pilots are Ethiopian nationals. It was an Ethiopian pilot, Captain Leul Abate, who put his plane down in the Indian Ocean. The only partially successful ditching of a wide body in history. You've most likely seen the video of it happening

This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 9:44 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:39 am to
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Pretty sure science/biology says they pass out


CVRs have recorded plenty of incidents when this didn't happen.

Alaska Airlines Flight 261 is a good example. They struggled with that plane for a long time.
Posted by dawgsjlw
shite hole with your momma
Member since Sep 2014
826 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:41 am to
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Why does this matter? It’s a sad story to all of us no matter the background of the dead.
Haven't you heard? The media gets a hard on for diversity, so the more diverse a situation is, the more erect they get.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:43 am to
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Ethiopian Airlines is better than a lot of US carriers.
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Most of their pilots are Ethiopian nationals.
Does not compute
Posted by dawgsjlw
shite hole with your momma
Member since Sep 2014
826 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:44 am to
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But it's over quickly. Unlike falling from 30,000 feet.
But long enough for 157 to shite their pants.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:45 am to
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Why does this matter?
The affairs to be sorted out are more complicated than if it were one nationality.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:46 am to
Fixed wing aircraft don't "fall out of the sky" at 33k feet without a bunch of other bad shite going on.

It's entirely feasible you would land safely even if you completely lost power and never got it back.

Hell, pilots put the engines on idle on your descent to land and glide.

One flight recently the auxiliary engine that powers the cabin failed, so when the pilots cut the main engines down on approach, you heard nothing but air. It was freaky.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40815 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:48 am to
We flew through Addis pretty much this time last year on their 787 and 777 on the way to Cape Town. Really enjoyed the experience.

Very curious if this is a 737max issue or not.
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 9:51 am
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3992 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:03 am to
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One flight recently the auxiliary engine that powers the cabin failed, so when the pilots cut the main engines down on approach, you heard nothing but air. It was freaky.




Did not think the APU's were operational during flight.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
34104 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:07 am to
Damn. I just flew on a 737 max last week.

It’s crazy that in such a remote part of the world on a random flight that 8 Americans were on board. Guessing it had to do with charity/church mission type stuff.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:09 am to
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Guessing it had to do with charity/church mission type stuff.
They we’re going to Nairobi. Nairobi is the safari capital of the world.
Posted by Klendathu
Member since Sep 2014
633 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:15 am to
Is there a rational reason to avoid the Max8 at this point?
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 10:18 am
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