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69 years ago today: the Mann Gulch Fire

Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:33 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:33 am
A team of 15 smokejumpers parachuted onto a Montana hillside in late afternoon. Less than two hours later, most of them were dead. The lessons learned changed the way wildland fires are fought. LINK
Posted by jennyjones
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:54 am to
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Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:55 am to
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Posted by tonydtigr
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:02 pm to
The University of Chicago professor, Norman McClean, who wrote the book about the fire, is better known for writing the book "A River Runs Through It" which was about his early life and fly fishing in Montana.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 12:03 pm
Posted by MikeD
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:03 pm to
Young Men and Fire was a good read
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:09 pm to
Got to watch out for that wind shift. A wind shift took out the Granite Mountain Hotshots during the Yarnell Fire.

I've always wanted to go out west and join a fire crew, but that job is so unpredictable.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:15 pm to
You have to be young, single, and basically homeless, or have a job that gives you lots of time off. Lots of teachers and carpenters. The only full time employees are the supervisors and there aren't many of them. Heavy equipment operators have it a little better, and of course aircrews are a different category altogether.

There's also been a move toward using private contractors.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 1:01 pm to
Thanks for posting. I have been meaning to read more about this.
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 1:40 pm to
Just curious how do you fight a fire in 1949 in the middle of the Montana wilderness.
Did they run water hoses down to the river and pump water up that way?
Or did they just plan to cut down enough timber to prevent it from continuing to spread?
Posted by GulfCoastPoke
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 1:51 pm to
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Young Men and Fire was a good read


Agreed, got a bit laborious at the end, but good nonetheless.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106059 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 2:20 pm to
The same way they do now, hand tools to dig firelines. They have chainsaws instead of crosscut saws, better communication, better understanding of the physics of fire, and of course a lot more aerial support. But the guys (and a few girls) on the ground are doing pretty much the same thing they always did. Clearing brush by hand, and setting backfires. Sometimes a road is nearby so they can bring in firetrucks and bulldozers. Usually not. Putting water on a forest fire is usually impractical except by air.

And as we saw in Gatlinburg, wildfires are not only a western thing. The last time I went backpacking in Arkansas, the guy who dropped us off at the trailhead pointed out a fire a few miles away and mentioned we "might want to keep an eye on it." Unstated was what we might do if it came our way. I guess find a creek and submerge ourselves.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 2:36 pm to
That’s got to be some of the hardest work to do. Hoofing it up and down mountains with many pounds of gear and a fire on its way.
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