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re: 4 Year Old Dies After Finding Gun
Posted on 9/2/24 at 11:17 am to Clames
Posted on 9/2/24 at 11:17 am to Clames
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According to the best data, they do. I know, you aren't well educated or honest enough to do objective research on this topic so it's not like you'll ever get it anyway.
Calm your tits John Wayne, I don't care if you want to carry a gun everywhere you go if it makes you feel better. He'll, I think you ought to be able to walk around with a belt fed machine gun if that's what your heart desires. But for the vast majority of people, it's a security blanket and nothing more. Most people don't have the training or required amount of practice to be proficient with a pistol at even the closest ranges.
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 12:03 pm to Psych23
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Most people don't have the training or required amount of practice to be proficient with a pistol at even the closest ranges.
Yet hundreds of thousands to millions of people seem to be able to successfully defend themselves every year just fine. Yes, that argument is tired, unoriginal, and steeped in ignorance which makes it a very typical post for you....
Posted on 9/2/24 at 12:08 pm to Tempratt
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Libs are elated over this. “See, see, see? Guns are bad.
you're a MISERABLE, sorry arse, ignorant piece of shite. I'm sure this is not the first time you've been told.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 12:14 pm to Jon A thon
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but work all over Houston
So do I. I’ve never once found a need to have a firearm on me. But to each his own, and I won’t say you don’t have the right to do so.
My point is that I don’t live in constant fear. Usually the people who do are the ones buying doomsday rations from Alex Jones.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:01 pm to Saintsisit
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If you're driving down the interstate, no need to keep one in the chamber.
So ignorant. I drive down an interstate everday for work, so I am supposed to leave my house with my CCW pistol un-chambered, drive to my destination, chamber a round, go about my business, then unload and return the pistol to condition 2 before driving home? Do you fail to understand the potential problems of manipulating a gun that many times unnecessarily? Do you imagine carjackings and violent road rage incidents never happen on interstates too? I've been in the military for 26+ years so I know the stupid shite that gets drilled into soldiers but try to recognize it's stupid shite and what was done "down range" has pretty much no bearing on reality in the normal world.
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:03 pm to TCO
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My point is that I don’t live in constant fear
At least you're not calling for gun bans, which is a win, But, how did you make the leap from someone arming themselves in the event something goes bad to being fearful? It's not FEAR that makes me carry, it's feeling prepared. I don't fear a car wreck but I'm prepared by wearing my seatbelt and having insurance coverage.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:10 pm to SJS101
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least you're not calling for gun bans, which is a win, But, how did you make the leap from someone arming themselves in the event something goes bad to being fearful? It's not FEAR that makes me carry, it's feeling prepared. I don't fear a car wreck but I'm prepared by wearing my seatbelt and having insurance coverage.
I’m a firearm owner, I just don’t feel like I always need to be prepared to shoot someone. You gotta live your life baw.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:18 pm to jodyHighroller
quote:I don’t remember being shite about being 4 years old
By the time I was 4 I knew damn well what a gun was
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:20 pm to Rize
quote:I own many guns. I want zero new laws for gun control
You always keep it loaded. 1000% of the time it needs to be loaded. There are tons of safe options to keep it away from kids. The last thing you want to do is be racking a slide if you need it.
But I would imagine far more people accidentally discharge firearms and injure or kill themselves than they do successfully protecting themselves with a gun
And I would venture to say it’s not even close
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:25 pm to lsupride87
Just looked it up. You are four times more likely to accidentally shoot yourself with your own firearm than use it in self defense
I actually thought it would be more
I actually thought it would be more
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:57 pm to Shanegolang
I read that the father stopped and exited the vehicle to adjust his trailer. Why wasn't the kid strapped in a car seat? I feel for the father but there is more negligence that just the loaded gun, I think.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 3:02 pm to imjustafatkid
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What's the law in Louisiana about having a gun in your car?
Basically an extension of your home. You could have a loaded gun in your vehicle without a CCL even before we had Constitutional carry.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 3:03 pm to dalefla
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I read that the father stopped and exited the vehicle to adjust his trailer. Why wasn't the kid strapped in a car seat? I feel for the father but there is more negligence that just the loaded gun, I think.
I’m pretty sure it was in their driveway. I can only speculate, but I imagine the boy was out there with dad while dad got things situated vs. them already traveling.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 3:09 pm to The Third Leg
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Dad will kill himself tonight if he has a shred of decency. I sure would.
Yeah because that will make this tragedy less tragic.
The dad is going to need psychiatric help and I’m suspecting you need it too.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 3:11 pm to Clames
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Yes, that argument is tired, unoriginal, and steeped in ignorance which makes it a very typical post for you
What argument do you think I'm trying to make exactly?
Posted on 9/2/24 at 3:32 pm to Clames
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That's just plain stupid, especially for those that actually carry a gun for self-defense on a daily basis. Let me know when threats start making appointments like they seem to do in your dim little world...
If you can't determine the threat, you need to up your situational awareness.
For most of us, when we're home we're in low threat environment. Think of it like you're downrange on base at Al Udeid or Arifjan, these are low threat and you don't carry hot. Leave the base and you may carry hot due to a different threat level. Same at home don't carry hot, but when you leave home and head to a higher threat area, you may want to change you arming posture.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 4:42 pm to Psych23
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Most people don't have the training or required amount of practice to be proficient with a pistol at even the closest ranges.
Probably not a completely incorrect statement, but I also think you'd be surprised how many people do train. I've taken several defensive shooting classes, and shoot once a week. There's a community of people who take it seriously. And not in a fully paranoid way. It's a hobby with a useful side.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 5:31 pm to lsufan9193969700
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This thinking is incredibly naive. There are threats everywhere. You never know when something is going to happen in a "safe" place or in a "unsafe" place.
Even when downrange, did you carry hot on a main base? Probably not, there were still threats but you can determine if in a high threat environment or not.
There are potential threat everywhere, the reason we differentiate them into levels is because you don't want to roll around in battle rattle 24/7.
If you're that worried, do you wear your helmet driving to work? Got your vest on? You never know when someone is going to take a random potshot at you. If you are an ATM repairman, you probably do. For 99% of us, we can determine when to increase our security posture on the fly. My ole' lady sends me out to meet a sketchy dude because she wants a $5 table off FB marketplace, I'm carrying hot, looking over my shoulder the whole time, being very cautious, I've got everything mapped out. In my very safe community when I'm dropping my kids off at the school, I'm not carrying hot. Now if you live in the ghetto, you may want to arm up when taking your kids to school.
Making these judgements is simple and skillset everyone needs. Nuance is a simple concept but one our society is currently struggling with at all levels.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:07 pm to fallguy_1978
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Basically an extension of your home. You could have a loaded gun in your vehicle without a CCL even before we had Constitutional carry.
Same here in Alabama. I hate it for that dad but man why would you leave a 4 year old around a loaded gun?
Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:11 pm to Jon A thon
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Probably not a completely incorrect statement, but I also think you'd be surprised how many people do train. I've taken several defensive shooting classes, and shoot once a week. There's a community of people who take it seriously. And not in a fully paranoid way. It's a hobby with a useful side.
Sure, but I'm willing to bet that's a very small minority of the gun carrying population.
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