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re: 21,000 Drug convictions to be tossed after drug lab tech pleads guilty to tampering
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:38 pm to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:38 pm to NYNolaguy1
Yeah but you can be sure a lot of these probably should be in prison anyway.
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:39 pm to TheOcean
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This is the great country we live in. We spent millions putting 21,000 wrongfully people away -- most of which had to do with pot. Ruined a lot of lives. And now we have crackhead Sessions running the AG office talking about reigniting the war on drugs.
To be fair, we don't know if all 21k were wrongful convictions. I agree that she's awful and that you have to toss every case she worked on but odds are many of the people she tested were guilty.
That said, I agree that the WoD is crap and Sessions needs to back the hell off of starting it back up. The fact that he puts pot on the same level of heroin is pathetic and can only mean he is woefully and willfully misinformed or is completely bought by the prison industry and big pharma. Either way I don't have much hope that the current WoD will end w/him in charge.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:41 pm to Scruffy
I'm not missing anything. I don't disagree with the fact that they got out in jail on the back of POTENTIALLY falsified test results (unless they go through all 21k tests, no way to know). I even said so much in the post you quoted.
What I DO disagree with is the idea, that the person who I ORIGINALLY RESPONDED TO STATED, that every one of those 21k was actually innocent.
The records will be cleared, but that doesn't mean they weren't guilty. Good thing about criminals though...they tend to frick up multiple times.
What I DO disagree with is the idea, that the person who I ORIGINALLY RESPONDED TO STATED, that every one of those 21k was actually innocent.
The records will be cleared, but that doesn't mean they weren't guilty. Good thing about criminals though...they tend to frick up multiple times.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:42 pm to Tempratt
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Yeah but you can be sure a lot of these probably should be in prison anyway.
Dude, no real crimes will go unpunished because of this. The only convictions dropped will be from victimless crimes of adults having drugs. Nobody is getting off on a murder charge.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:49 pm to Tempratt
quote:For drugs? Nah. Nobody should be in jail for buying, selling, or possessing drugs.
Yeah but you can be sure a lot of these probably should be in prison anyway.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:01 pm to NYNolaguy1
She probably just couldn't see the results clearly
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:04 pm to NYNolaguy1
She should have to serve the combined time every single defendant could have possibly faced in prison, so probably about 100,000 years. They need to fricking execute anyone caught pulling this shite, amazing.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:11 pm to Strannix
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They need to fricking execute anyone caught pulling this shite, amazing.
I agree.
It'll never happen however, because the trail leads to people high up in the food chain. They didn't want to bury her because it would expose everyone involved.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:15 pm to NYNolaguy1
She dead.
The hit is definitely out.
The hit is definitely out.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:26 pm to Blue Velvet
What about using them, getting behind the wheel of a car, and killing someone?
Because if someone isn't using them, why is anyone buying them?
Because if someone isn't using them, why is anyone buying them?
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:32 pm to NYNolaguy1
I guess the OT is right Boston is the most racist place in American.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:35 pm to Cowboyfan89
Killing people is wrong and it is illegal. Are you confused about why?
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:35 pm to LucasP
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One, your grammer is bad.
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law but
Do you even comma conjunction?
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:39 pm to Cowboyfan89
Yea that was fricked up but she didn't ruin 21,000 people's lives like some are saying. I would guess the majority of these convictions that are being thrown out were really guilty and proper testing would have proved it. They actually are coming out ahead because they get their case tossed even though they did the crime. She should be in jail but she didn't ruin 21,000 lives.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:42 pm to nes2010
quote:^ assumption. You have no proof.
she didn't ruin 21,000 lives.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:44 pm to nes2010
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She should be in jail but she didn't ruin 21,000 lives.
We don't assume people are guilty just for being arrested in our society. To assume anything past this is to assume they're guilty without proof.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:45 pm to Cowboyfan89
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What about using them, getting behind the wheel of a car, and killing someone?
That's an awesome reason to ban alcohol. We should try it and see what happens.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:54 pm to NYNolaguy1
What if they don't kill anyone? What if I get behind the wheel of a car, impaired, but don't kill anyone?
Does that make it ok?
frick NO!!
What if I'm just minding my own business on a city street, high on drugs? Is that ok as long as I don't harm anyone? Maybe so.
But how do you stop me the minute I decide to get in a car and drive? Or do something else that can jeopardize the lives of others?
Does that make it ok?
frick NO!!
What if I'm just minding my own business on a city street, high on drugs? Is that ok as long as I don't harm anyone? Maybe so.
But how do you stop me the minute I decide to get in a car and drive? Or do something else that can jeopardize the lives of others?
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:56 pm to upgrayedd
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She's fricked
She's already pled guilty, gone to jail and been released on parole. Some of the innocent people she sent to prison as far back as 13 years ago are still sitting there. She's not as fricked as the people she fricked. If Massachusetts, like most states, allows no cause of action for wrongful imprisonment by innocent people who are convicted and sent to prison by illegal actions of law enforcement/prosecutors, then they are well and truly fricked.
Sad thing is that similar shite happens in death penalty cases, too, and some innocents have actually been executed while others still wait on death row as prosecutors and judges refuse to cooperate in getting their convictions overturned even while knowing the convictions were fraudulent.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:57 pm to Blue Velvet
Ok, 21,00 people were arrested for having fake drugs that were perfectly legal. Good to know. It's called common sense.
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