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re: 21 Year Old Victim Dies in Bourbon St Shooting (Updated)
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:13 am to RDRGeaux09
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:13 am to RDRGeaux09
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The city is going through a huge renovation and it's exciting to see
This.
To me it is so much better now than it was in 2004. The most violent NOLA ever was, was in the 90's.
It never stopped tourism.
Things are getting better.
Every day.
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Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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great. let me know when that turnaround happens
I won't happen in a day or a year.
Give it a Decade and it will be a totally different place. A lot of positive coming in.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
The whole state is lost. Highest incarceration rate in the world.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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when nola people start to take these incidents seriously (along with all of the other violence that plagues their city), then i will start believing they truly want to do something about it. as long as y'all treat it as part of your culture, then you deserve the criticism.
What precisely should I be doing right now to "take this seriously"?
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:15 am to urinetrouble
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Yes, everyone who wants it Nola to get better should dis-invest in Nola
Well that's like the people who live in the city who oppose every tax for police or road work, then bitch when the police force doesn't get more recruits and road work isn't done faster.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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What exactly does "getting its shite together" mean?
how about getting your violent crimes closer to the average for "big" cities. that's a start
If that were so easy, it would have been done already.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:15 am to urinetrouble
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Again, nobody I know treats it as part of their culture.
obviously, though, plenty of citizens of nola do treat it as part of their culture. whether you want to admit they exist or not, they are not only citizens of nola, but they are major contributors to what constitutes nola.
when people discuss nola, this is another argument that typically arises. the "that's not what WE do. it's what THEY do" argument. well, together you all constitute nola. you can't just ignore that "they" exist or their contributions (good or bad)
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It's really just people trying to convince themselves that it couldn't happen to them or extremely unlikely. I think most of us do that anytime we hear a story like this. That's why people get upset when bad things happen in "good" areas. This is true anywhere.
we didn't see these indirect defenses in other recent tragedies, like the one where the drunk driver drove into a house and killed people. and that was in a "good" area
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I agree that this is a problem in Nola.
glad we can agree on something
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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new orleans has the 26th highest murder rate
not in the USA...in the world
If it gets any higher, they might be able to host the World Cup.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:17 am to Winkface
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And the sad part is you can't trust the numbers that come out of Nopd except for homicides because you can't fib those.
good point, but we have to rely on what we have
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 10:18 am
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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not in the USA...in the world
I was just in city #9 and #12 on that list for 9 nights…didn't seem that bad
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:18 am to SlowFlowPro
It's ridiculous, but there is no way to stop this in the short term. In the long term, if NOLA continues on it's current direction, better days are ahead.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:19 am to Napoleon
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Well that's like the people who live in the city who oppose every tax for police or road work, then bitch when the police force doesn't get more recruits and road work isn't done faster.
Agreed.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:20 am to Solo
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It's ridiculous, but there is no way to stop this in the short term. In the long term, if NOLA continues on it's current direction, better days are ahead.
just for shits and giggles, O/U on the shooter being 18.5 years old?
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:21 am to Winkface
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Highest incarceration rate in the world.
mostly due to the practice of locking up non-violent offenders. In Louisiana pot gets you put in jail.
We do have a lot of violent offenders and hopefully with the new jail there won't be any releases for overcrowding.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:22 am to LSUzealot
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what are NOLA residents supposed to do exactly?
i'll give you an easy starting point. stop supporting news media that doesn't accurately report the alleged perp
i enjoy watching y'all gentrify many bad areas, and that's a great start, but there is a culture in nola that loves to support problems b/c of some "culture" argument. like, for instance, economically supporting areas that are violent. if you want to take it over via gentrification? great. if you want to refuse to do that while economically supporting the area, which just creates a breeding ground for violent behavior, b/c "that shop has been around for x-years"? meh
the #1 thing you all, as residents, can do, is make it too expensive for violent people to live, or force them into easily-defined areas where you can contain them.
as i say this, nola is creating publicly-subsidized mixed-use section 8 housing projects (near "good" areas, iirc)
that is the opposite of what needs to be done, and the city is helping to create monstrosities like that
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:22 am to 4LSU2
damn, wasn't too far from that last night
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:22 am to Napoleon
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Well that's like the people who live in the city who oppose every tax for police or road work, then bitch when the police force doesn't get more recruits and road work isn't done faster.
So you are admitting that the residents don't give a shite about crime, right?
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 10:25 am
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:22 am to 4LSU2
It wouldn't bother me if I never set foot in NO again for the rest of my life.
Especially bourbon street.
Especially bourbon street.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:23 am to LSUzealot
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but there is no way to stop this in the short term.
more police presence on bourbon from 10-6am
more camera's with better signage letting people know they are being filmed at all times
nola has to protect the french quarter at all costs. if they don't do that, those tourist dollars start to dwindle...
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:23 am to LSUzealot
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just for shits and giggles, O/U on the shooter being 18.5 years old?
I really think the shooter is under 21. These black "youths" in the quarter have been a problem lately.
I don't know if Serpas is afraid of a backlash from the Black Church leaders (very vocal here) or what, but they need to be kept out of the quarter.
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