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re: 21 Year Old Victim Dies in Bourbon St Shooting (Updated)
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:04 am to HeadyBrosevelt
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:04 am to HeadyBrosevelt
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What exactly does "getting its shite together" mean?
how about getting your violent crimes closer to the average for "big" cities. that's a start
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Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:04 am to monsterballads
There will be national press about it but it isn't breaking news because it isn't 9 dead.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:05 am to Napoleon
2:46:25 is when you can hear the shots, I lost count but it sounded like 15-20 shots fired.
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 10:07 am
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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a lot of urban blight all around
changing.
There are blocks right now in the ghetto where every single house is under rennovations. We are seeing a huge turnaround.
The people who actually work and live in this city can see it. Those on the outside who think NOLA is a three mile radius around Bourbon and Canal, may never see it. But many of you are biased anyway because no matter how bad NOLA gets, it is still the Jewel of the state and not the second and third rate cities that no one ever visits or stops at other than to get gas on the Interstate.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:06 am to monsterballads
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1. a black mass shooter doesn't fit the narrative IMO
2. people were shot in a bar where it's illegal to have a gun
Exactly. Same two reasons you have to dig to find news on Chicago's weekly mass shootings.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:06 am to Napoleon
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You could snap go to the street in your town right now and hit nine people with a gun.
Does that make YOUR town shitty?
i don't know if my town has ever had a mass shooting
the others were a case of a ganster shooting at people. these aren't cases of crazy people snapping
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Why is it that NOLA gets attacked for the stupidity of random citizens?
they're not "random" citizens
i believe the shooter in the 2011 haloween shooting and the one like a year ago both had violent criminal records
just like your MAJOR murder rate is not "random"
nola gets attacked for violent criminal acts because it has established itself as a super violent city
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:07 am to shutterspeed
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By your logic, let's all adorn ourselves with video cameras to prevent all future NO crime.
Camera systems deter crime once criminals know they will be on camera for the crime.
No one wants to get caught (unless they are suicidal)
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:07 am to Napoleon
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You hated the city long before any of these incidents.
i don't hate the city
see, this is the problem. if you don't suck nola's dick, you "hate" the city. that insular, protectionist view is hilarious and EXACTLY what i'm talking about. it's the reason why people pull the "he/she should have known not to be there" card
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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don't want my money going to fund a lost city
Okay. But you have to admit you have an agenda here.
A "lost city"? You are a smart guy, but at the same time pretty ignorant.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:09 am to Napoleon
These people think shite can happen overnight. It takes years before outsiders actually notice things. But seeing as I live and haves lived here all my life I know what you're talking about. The city is going through a huge renovation and it's exciting to see
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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when nola people start to take these incidents seriously (along with all of the other violence that plagues their city), then i will start believing they truly want to do something about it. as long as y'all treat it as part of your culture, then you deserve the criticism.
Then what do you think people in Nola need to do about it?
Again, nobody I know treats it as part of their culture.
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anytime i hear the "people should know better than to be there" line or the "shouldn't be out that late" line or the "this is just an isolated incident" line, your city digs itself further down in my eyes. those aren't defenses of the act, but they are borderline indirect support of the violence as a whole and they have no place in a discussion about the terrible violence of your city
It's really just people trying to convince themselves that it couldn't happen to them or extremely unlikely. I think most of us do that anytime we hear a story like this. That's why people get upset when bad things happen in "good" areas. This is true anywhere.
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and no, not every major city is as violent as nola, nor does every major city have as many "places you should know not to be" as nola. hell even cities with violence problems like los angeles or chicago have easily-identified areas. nola doesn't. that's not an argument, and that is a counter-productive argument in the face of a serious problem
I agree that this is a problem in Nola.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:09 am to Napoleon
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There are blocks right now in the ghetto where every single house is under rennovations. We are seeing a huge turnaround.
great. let me know when that turnaround happens
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Those on the outside who think NOLA is a three mile radius around Bourbon and Canal, may never see it. But many of you are biased anyway
show me the stats, namely violent crimes. then we can get to stats on things like education
i'm not biased. i use statistical analysis to make my decisions. nola is a super violent city. this is a thread about a mass shooting. my comments are based in historical, statistical analysis and are perfectly apt for this discussion
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 10:10 am
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:10 am to urinetrouble
Maybe proud was too strong of a word. Complacent with the violence that plagues New Orleans.
I believe New Orleans is an amazing city, however if the residents are not vocal in the opposition of such behavior, New Orleans will never see it's full potential.
I believe New Orleans is an amazing city, however if the residents are not vocal in the opposition of such behavior, New Orleans will never see it's full potential.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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personally? do everything i can to not give any money to the city. i am voting with my dollars
and i will advise everyone i can to do the same until nola gets its act together
Yes, everyone who wants it Nola to get better should dis-invest in Nola
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:10 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
how about getting your violent crimes closer to the average for "big" cities. that's a start
You obviously have no answer on how to do this, but still blame the city.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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when nola people start to take these incidents seriously (along with all of the other violence that plagues their city), then i will start believing they truly want to do something about it.
what are NOLA residents supposed to do exactly? the FQ Minutemen were laughed at on this board and even made a joke on page 1 of this thread.
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"this is just an isolated incident" line, your city digs itself further down in my eyes.
take a look at a NOLA homicide map then go take a look at any other city with similar violence…it is isolated…there are zero homicides in the FQ or Uptown…the shooting on Bourbon St. or close by happens about once a year…it fricking sucks but it's no different than the 3 murders in nice parts of Manhattan this year.
Your post in general has huge holes in it…you try to extrapolate ideas based on NOLA residents who are simply defending the city from Trolls like NawlinsTigah, CT, the same few posters who will take any opportunity to say frick NOLA the city blows
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you deserve the criticism
our city digs itself further down in my eyes
I think everyone in the entire state can acknowledge there is a problem. But the crime is trending in the right direction at least. As others have mentioned, I have never felt unsafe living here or walking in the dark alone at any moment and I think that is what's most important…FTR, I would not safe walking by myself down Esplanade at 3AM…just like I wouldn't feel safe in other cities with the same practice
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:11 am to Napoleon
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, it is still the Jewel of the state and not the second and third rate cities that no one ever visits or stops at other than to get gas on the Interstate.
And there we have it...put down the other cities but expect people from those cities not to put down NOLA.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:12 am to SlowFlowPro
And the sad part is you can't trust the numbers that come out of Nopd except for homicides because you can't fib those.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:12 am to Topwater Trout
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People in Nola shouldn't throw stones and be so arrogant about how great their city is.
Totally agree. A lot of people in Nola are arrogant as frick.
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