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re: 2024-2025 Land Cruiser
Posted on 11/30/24 at 10:21 am to CrystalPreserves
Posted on 11/30/24 at 10:21 am to CrystalPreserves
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A four banger is better on gas and will likely get to 300k with no problems
The current gen turbo 4 cylinders for Toyota/Lexus aren’t making it 30k which is why they have one of the biggest recalls in company history going on right now.
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:25 pm to TDTOM
Drove one a few weeks ago. Nice drive and plenty of power
It’s got all of the features you’d want for off-road and offers plenty of torque. Original Land cruisers always had small engines btw
Cargo area is wierd with the battery making the floor uneven.
Toyota might have some canibalism going on with the land cruiser and the 4-runner.
Also drive the gx550 and loved it. Overtrail with no 3rd row makes sense to me.
Also, checked out the new trd pro sequoia and really liked it. Impressive power. Hate the cargo room.
It’s got all of the features you’d want for off-road and offers plenty of torque. Original Land cruisers always had small engines btw
Cargo area is wierd with the battery making the floor uneven.
Toyota might have some canibalism going on with the land cruiser and the 4-runner.
Also drive the gx550 and loved it. Overtrail with no 3rd row makes sense to me.
Also, checked out the new trd pro sequoia and really liked it. Impressive power. Hate the cargo room.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:11 pm to TDTOM
The current gen of Toyota engines are having shocking number of issues. I’d steer clear for a few years before they track down those problems.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:33 pm to RolltidePA
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The current gen of Toyota engines are having shocking number of issues. I’d steer clear for a few years before they track down those problems.
Can you back this up with some actual figures showing year over figures showing the shocking number of issues?
Posted on 12/4/24 at 10:51 pm to SlidellCajun
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Can you back this up with some actual figures showing year over figures showing the shocking number of issues?
I was a hardcore Toyota/Lexus guy through the 2021 model year. They recalled 2 years of the twin turbo replacement for the 5.7, just as 1 example. Replacing 102k engines.
My, how the mighty have fallen...
(ETA if "all" isn't shocking, it will do until shocking comes along.)
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 10:56 pm to SlidellCajun
You could always look it up yourself, but since you appear to be incapable, here you go.
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Toyota has had multiple engine issues with its 2024 vehicles, including:
Engine stalling
In June 2024, Toyota recalled over 100,000 2022-2023 Toyota Tundra and Tundra Hybrid models due to a risk of engine stalling. The issue was caused by a software issue in the engine control unit that could lead to a loss of engine power and unexpected stalling.
Engine debris
Some 2024 Toyota Tundras with V6 engines may have metal debris in the oil or lodged in engine ports. This could lead to engine deterioration and complete engine failure.
Machining debris
Toyota recalled 2022 and 2023 Tundra pickups and LX SUVs due to machining debris left in the engine during manufacturing. Toyota is replacing the affected engines free of charge.
You can check if your vehicle is involved in a safety recall by:
Visiting Toyota.com/recall or nhtsa.gov/recalls
Entering your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) or license plate information
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They’ve replaced over 50,000 engines in Tundras this year alone. That’s 1/3 of their yearly sales number. Pretty shocking for Toyota.
The 4 cylinder engines are having the same machining issues.
Satisfied?
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Toyota has had multiple engine issues with its 2024 vehicles, including:
Engine stalling
In June 2024, Toyota recalled over 100,000 2022-2023 Toyota Tundra and Tundra Hybrid models due to a risk of engine stalling. The issue was caused by a software issue in the engine control unit that could lead to a loss of engine power and unexpected stalling.
Engine debris
Some 2024 Toyota Tundras with V6 engines may have metal debris in the oil or lodged in engine ports. This could lead to engine deterioration and complete engine failure.
Machining debris
Toyota recalled 2022 and 2023 Tundra pickups and LX SUVs due to machining debris left in the engine during manufacturing. Toyota is replacing the affected engines free of charge.
You can check if your vehicle is involved in a safety recall by:
Visiting Toyota.com/recall or nhtsa.gov/recalls
Entering your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) or license plate information
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They’ve replaced over 50,000 engines in Tundras this year alone. That’s 1/3 of their yearly sales number. Pretty shocking for Toyota.
The 4 cylinder engines are having the same machining issues.
Satisfied?
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:20 pm to RolltidePA
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They’ve replaced over 50,000 engines in Tundras this year alone. That’s 1/3 of their yearly sales number. Pretty shocking for Toyota. The 4 cylinder engines are having the same machining issues. Satisfied?
Well no. You posted mostly tundra issues. And if they’re replacing the engines then what are they replacing them with? More bad engines?
And the machining issue has been rectified from what I have heard
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:22 pm to TDTOM
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Anyone have one of these? What is your opinion?
4 cylinder Turbo Hybrid Only engine option...
Hard PASS
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:32 pm to TDTOM
I’ve had 3 Land Cruisers, this is not the same. They are using the name to sell a cheap version of the original. Lexus now has the only real Land Cruiser.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:36 pm to rltiger
The US market Land Cruiser is the LC Prado in the world market, and not the original Land Cruiser... I might be wrong, but I think that's the case.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 1:51 pm to crystalmaze
quote:is neutered by the EPA
The US market Land Cruiser
I hope trump and crew gut the epa and allow us to have real vehicles with real engines again. I’d be first in line for a hilux
Posted on 12/5/24 at 2:06 pm to SlidellCajun
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Well no. You posted mostly tundra issues. And if they’re replacing the engines then what are they replacing them with? More bad engines?
And the machining issue has been rectified from what I have heard
If the machining issues have been rectified, feel free to post that information. I posted that Toyota was having engine issues, you ask for hard data from me, it was provided. Now somehow completely anecdotal information from you is supposed to be acceptable?
And replacing the engines with more bad engines, maybe so. They haven't mentioned any change in their machining process as of November this year. They have been very guarded about the remedy for the issues. So, from "what you heard" is nothing, because Toyota has made no mention of whether they've corrected the issue or not.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 12/5/24 at 2:22 pm to RolltidePA
quote:From the folks at the Huntsville engine plant.
The 4 cylinder engines are having the same machining issues.
Gump work
Posted on 12/5/24 at 2:55 pm to soccerfüt
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From the folks at the Huntsville engine plant.
Gump work
Well, only part of the problem. They're having the same issues in the Japanese plant.
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"The faulty engines were produced in two Toyota plants — one in Japan and one in Alabama. Toyota won't say what caused the metal chips to remain in the engines. Still, it could result from a change in the manufacturing or cleaning process, new machinery, or defective tooling, not human error."
Posted on 12/5/24 at 3:20 pm to Cosmo
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The get a sequoia
Tom needs a Sienna. Way bigger than a 4-runner, tows 3,500 lbs., and gets 36/36 mpg in a 2025.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 3:36 pm to TDTOM
Sir, this is the OT, we know about jacked up, F-250 dually 4x4s, PFG fishing shirts and crocs. That's it.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 3:44 pm to RolltidePA
The issues that Toyota has had are with the tundra and the Lexus LX. From 2023 to early 2024. Engines are being replaced which is extraordinary. The new engines have no evidence of the machine shaving problems.
No issues with any of the other vehicles And certainly no issues with the Land Cruiser.
No issues with any of the other vehicles And certainly no issues with the Land Cruiser.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 3:46 pm to wileyjones
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I hope trump and crew gut the epa and allow us to have real vehicles with real engines again.
It wouldn't change anything CARB and others would just impose their own standards and the OEMs would have to comply or risk losing the market. Not worth it when it was big a big re-tool expense anyway.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 3:57 pm to SlidellCajun
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No issues with any of the other vehicles And certainly no issues with the Land Cruiser.
quote:Some might say shocking, especially with Toyota's reputation and thanks for proving my original point. The new engines haven't been in long enough to be sure that there aren't manufacturing issues with this batch and Toyota hasn't said so either. We'll know next year when the data is in.
Engines are being replaced which is extraordinary.
Hard to say if the there are no issues with the Land Cruiser or Tacoma. They've only been on sale for a couple months. With the teething issues on newly introduced engines that Toyota has had recently, you don't think it would be wise to wait it out a year or two for Toyota to get things straightened out? Put aside the fact that you really should never buy a year-one vehicle, because of issues just like this.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 3:58 pm to TDTOM
I see no reason to trade in an older Land Cruiser or even a 5th Gen 4Runner for one.
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