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re: 2020 Census Form - Too Many Questions?

Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:23 am to
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:23 am to
I put 4/20/69 for my birthday

The census taker was like “nice”
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:23 am to
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So it’s pretty accurate actually.




and they were all born two weeks from now?
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:24 am to
I got one as well but haven't opened it yet
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:26 am to
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and they were all born two weeks from now?


That’s the date they recommend when you don’t know the birthday of someone in your house.

I’ve got so many kids that sometimes I get their birthdays jumbled up, so “idk” is probably the more accurate.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:27 am to
Dude, all of your household data is already out there. The "paranoid about my info" ship sailed a long long time ago
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:30 am to
Well then let them do their own confirmation. I ain’t got time for doing their work for them.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:32 am to
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Dude, all of your household data is already out there. The "paranoid about my info" ship sailed a long long time ago



I mean, I would have thought so too until I got a letter from the census bureau addressed to “resident”. I have owned this house for 6 years.

One of three things is true. They can either access the info, and in that case, don’t need it from me. Or, they don’t have it and need to explain to me why they need it, Or, they’re too incompetent/lazy to get it.

In any event, seems pointless to provide that info.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 11:33 am
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:34 am to
just curious, but if you don't think those are appropriate questions for a census, what should they be asking?
Posted by BHM
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:37 am to
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Dude, all of your household data is already out there




Ok then smart guy, why are they asking if they already have it?


:)
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:37 am to
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just curious, but if you don't think those are appropriate questions for a census, what should they be asking?


At the top of the letter, they say that they need household information for the purpose of Infrastructure planning, public services and congressional districting.

I’m not sure how knowing my 5 year olds name, birthdate and whether she is of Jamaican, Romanian, or Pacific Island decent helps them do any of that.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:42 am to
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I mean, I would have thought so too until I got a letter from the census bureau addressed to “resident”. I have owned this house for 6 years.

One of three things is true. They can either access the info, and in that case, don’t need it from me. Or, they don’t have it and need to explain to me why they need it, Or, they’re too incompetent/lazy to get it.

In any event, seems pointless to provide that info.


Because its the government and the generically addressed every single one of these letters

Since it's illegal to open other people's mail, they dont want to mail things to apartments and rentals with an old name and not have it opened.

I'm just pointing out you answering it or not doesn't change anything about your data being out there
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 11:43 am
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:46 am to
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Because its the government and the generically addressed every single one of these letters


The IRS is “the government”. I’ve never gotten a generically addressed letter from them
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:49 am to
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I'm just pointing out you answering it or not doesn't change anything about your data being out there



People keep saying “out there”, like there’s some kind of data lake that holds information about everyone and that is accessible by everyone who works for every level of gubment.

Just because the NSA can identify everyone in your house doesn’t mean some college kid making $10/hr part time for the census bureau can too.

You should still take steps to limit where and who can get to your data. You’ll obviously never have 100% privacy and control but you still need to make sure it’s not a free for all with your personal info.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 11:51 am
Posted by tigergirl10
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:17 pm to
Did you check the same sex husband/wife/spouse box they have?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:37 pm to
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2020 Census Form - Too Many Questions?


Just answer the minimum number of questions you want to. Let them try to put you in jail with Roger Stone and Paul Manafort.
Posted by Duck enticer
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:44 pm to
If one of ya'll gets the long form please fill it out. I know it is painstaking and arduous, but the information is put to good use. Namely to help planners and economists better figure out how to provide goods services and funding to certain locations. In my particular profession we used it to figure out the best route for a new regional transit route.

Census is super important as well. Determines Federal funding. In my particular profession Fed dollars are defined by an Urbanized area...
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:47 pm to
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long form


What’s the “long form”? I did mine online. Is that the long form?
Posted by Duck enticer
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:56 pm to
I don't think so. The long form is about 5 or 6 pages if I remember right. I think it is still mailed. It would be called something like or titled the American Community Survey (ACS). We specifically use the data in clumps. Recently, the Census Transportation Planning Products (CTPP) piece. Right now it is still 2012-2016.

They would've asked all kind of questions, like how many vehicles you have, do you work in the same parish you live, are you a transit rider etc....
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