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re: 13th Gate séance is rustling jimmies

Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:08 am to
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:08 am to
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I just believe in spreading kindness brother.


Nothing wrong with that
Posted by TigerGM
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:15 am to
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Seances don't contact anything. A fool and his money...


You don’t believe in catholic exorcisms?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:17 am to
No.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:17 am to
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You don’t believe in catholic exorcisms?
Im Catholic and no, those "exorcisms" are performed on people with mental illness or neurological disorders.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:20 am to
What priest is this?
Posted by TigerGM
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:21 am to
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Im Catholic and no, those "exorcisms" are performed on people with mental illness or neurological disorders.



Go listen to Dr Dan Schneider. Former military helicopter pilot and exorcist Assisstant. Don’t listen if you want to stay ignorant.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:24 am to
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Im Catholic and no, those "exorcisms" are performed on people with mental illness or neurological disorders.


There is a thorough vetting process with mental health professional involved. Of people that "Request" an exorcism about 75% are determined to not be demonic. The remaining cases were demonic possession or oppression are vetted and confirmed, another 60-70% are dismissed because the person is not willing to return to the church or is unwilling to let go of whatever mortal sin they are grasping onto.

So the number of actual exorcisms is not actually that high. There are tons of writings that can be found from catholic exorcists. There are accounts that are completely unexplainable by mental illness so you either have to believe there is something going on or that that all of these priests are lying in a situation where there is little they can personally gain.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 9:26 am
Posted by Dizz
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:25 am to
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The enemy is real. When we open doors to the demonic, they don’t care if it was “just for fun.” Our approach to witchcraft as a “fun game” has been one of the greatest victories won by the kingdom of darkness in modern times - hiding in plain sight for unsuspecting victims. Widespread participation in this “experience” by the people of Baton Rouge will steadily put more and more souls under demonic influence.


Can someone provide an example of someone being put under demonic influence? I mean if it is that easy to open doors to the demonic you would think there would be demons all over the place.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:26 am to
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Go listen to Dr Dan Schneider. Former military helicopter pilot and exorcist Assisstant. Don’t listen if you want to stay ignorant
All bullshite.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:26 am to
Regardless if you believe in this stuff, it’s one of those things where you’re best off not trying it
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:27 am to
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There is a thorough vetting process with mental health professional involved
Not really. Most of that is exaggerated. Look onto the details and you'll find mental illness.

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There are accounts that are completely unexplainable by mental illness so you either have to believe there is something going on or that that all of these priests are lying in a situation where there is little they can personally gain.
Once you separate exaggeration you'll find illness. The priests dont have to lie, they just dont know better.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 9:31 am
Posted by msutiger
Houston
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:29 am to
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Not really. Most of that is exaggerated. Look onto the details and you'll find mental illness.


Yes really. You do not walk into a church say you are possessed and get an exorcism. Psychologists are almost always involved and at minimum behavioral health tests are universally a requirement.

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Once you separate exaggeration you'll find illness. The priests dont have to lie, they just dont know better.


Read the accounts. Once you read the accounts you have no choice to believe but either A) They are liars B) We are dealing with something we cannot see nor understand. Someone speaking languages they do not know, eye rolling into the back of the head, an immediate reaction to a drop of holy water, unnatural strength. These are accounts from numerous catholic priests in the United States. They are either liars or they are not. Misunderstanding what they see is not on the table with some of these accounts.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 9:34 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:32 am to
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Regardless if you believe in this stuff, it’s one of those things where you’re best off not trying it


Why?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:33 am to
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heard a priest one time use an example when someone used a ouija board just for “fun” that if you open your front door just for fun and someone is standing there with a knife, it doesn’t matter that you were just doing it for fun, the door is open and it is too late.


Ouija boards are harmless. They have no real history and were created as a game in the late 1800s. The boards themselves do nothing, you could stand in a room without one and call on a spirit to show you a sign that’s it there and get the same result. It either is there or isn’t.

Seance is a whole different deal. It involves concentrated energy and specific incantations and burning specific herbs, candles, etc arranged in a specific way. And it usually involves calling on a specific spirit or demon by name. There is history of such witchcraft and the rituals are detailed in many ancient grimore books. It’s not something anyone should attempt or participate in
Posted by Aspercel
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:37 am to
I didn’t know they were doing this. Now I want to go

It’s excellent free marketing for them.
Posted by TigerGM
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:39 am to
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All bullshite



You say you’re catholic. So do you not believe in Jesus’ miracles or that he rose from the dead? If not you’re not catholic.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:39 am to
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Yes really. You do not walk into a church say you are possessed and get an exorcism. Psychologists are almost always involved and at minimum behavioral health tests are universally a requirement
I know this but its not really that rigorous.

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Read the accounts. Once you read the accounts you have no choice to believe but either A) They are liars B) We are dealing with something we cannot see nor understand
I have and your 2 choices are silly. C) They want to believe. They've spent their lives believing and there is now a case before them that isn't clear cut to them.

I've read accounts and most of the events like speaking foreign languages are completely wrong. They make gibberish sounds and occasionally a few sounds might make up a phrase but it's a product of apophenia in the observers.
Posted by TigerGM
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:40 am to
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Shouldn’t an all powerful god be able to prevent some edgy dorks who lit a few candles from opening a portal to hell?



Free will.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:40 am to
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You say you’re catholic. So do you not believe in Jesus’ miracles or that he rose from the dead? If not you’re not catholic
Show me where I said that? I dont buy possessions.
Posted by StrongOffer
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:44 am to
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I've read accounts and most of the events like speaking foreign languages are completely wrong. They make gibberish sounds and occasionally a few sounds might make up a phrase but it's a product of apophenia in the observers.
I appreciate that you are looking for natural explanations to crazy phenomena but there's a whole lot of accounts of possessed individuals speaking Latin (not gibberish sounds), contorting their bodies in completely unnatural ways, knowing secrets about the priests they could never know... like the other poster said, the only rational explanation is that the priests are lying.
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