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re: 13 charged in plots to kidnap Michigan Gov. Whitmer, target state government
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:28 pm to mindbreaker
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:28 pm to mindbreaker
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Nah you aren't worth the effort if we are being honest.
That's a no. Not surprised.
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:28 pm to Centinel
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f you don't immediately signal you're for one team, it's assumed you're for the other.
OR if you say you don't blame the party guilty of a terrorist plot you get assumed to be in support of them
That's not exactly a weird logical leap to make, bro.
If this was a riot thread, and I said "I don't really blame them for torching that police department," your first thought would not be "I bet he condemns those crimes," and you know it
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:28 pm to LNCHBOX
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She's has been worse than them.
are we sure? because I can find plenty of other examples of mayor or governors that put down more restrictions than Michigan
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:29 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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f this was a riot thread, and I said "I don't really blame them for torching that police department," your first thought would not be "I bet he condemns those crimes," and you know it
No, my first thought would be to ask you point blank if you had an issue with them torching that police department, since your comment isn't clear. Then I'd go from there based on your response. Instead of just assuming you're on the "other" team.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:29 pm to Salmon
I’d genuinely like to see that list
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:29 pm to Salmon
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are we sure? because I can find plenty of other examples of mayor or governors that put down more restrictions than Michigan
Can you find them that all go directly in eth face of all recommendations? Because those instances are few and far between. Can you also find where the tyrant tries to use other laws to keep their power after it has been stripped? Because that's even more rare.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:31 pm to Centinel
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If this was a riot thread, and I said "I don't really blame them for torching that police department,"
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my first thought would be to ask you point blank if you had an issue with them torching that police department.
This is complete bullshite and you know it.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:32 pm to HT713
quote:I wouldn't give a single solitary frick if it happened to any politician in office right now. They are all crooks, wouldn't be in the position they're in if they weren't, and there is no political solution.
"oh well that's what she gets" would be having a certified meltdown if a bunch of antifa retards did this to a republican governor.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:33 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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This is complete bullshite and you know it
Not really. I tend to always ask point blank yes or no questions to pin people down on a position. I've done it in this very thread. Just as I've responded every time Obtuse1 asked me a point blank yes or no question instead of trying to weasel out of it.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:33 pm to Centinel
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Yes. Just like I said earlier I don't blame a father for trying to beat the shite out of the guy who messed with his daughter, even though I disagree with him doing it.
Some people get pushed to a breaking point. You don't have to agree with what they did to understand why they did it.
So is it fair to say that you feel you can condemn bad actions and still not blame one for trying to right perceived wrong even though you think the action is disagreeable?
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:34 pm to LNCHBOX
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Can you find them that all go directly in eth face of all recommendations? Because those instances are few and far between.
recommendations by who?
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Can you also find where the tyrant tries to use other laws to keep their power after it has been stripped? Because that's even more rare.
like I said, I can find plenty of examples of government officials abusing their power
and thus, the problem with you stance in this thread, is that you have hitched yourself to a very subjective position, in which you will have to support almost all government protests, riots, violence in the future
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:35 pm to Salmon
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in which you will have to support almost all government protests, riots, violence in the future
Whatever you say dudePosted on 10/8/20 at 2:36 pm to LNCHBOX
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Whatever you say dude
actually its what you said
"acting like a tyrant has consequences"
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:36 pm to Salmon
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and thats fine
but my point is that this is a very subjective line here and someone can argue that abortion laws or gun laws or other laws are actively ruining their lives
Yes, that's a good point. And there have been people crazy enough to bomb abortion clinics or use extreme tactics regarding gun laws. There are crazy people on both sides of the aisle. And those people are ticking time bombs, just waiting to go off. I think in this case, people were pushed over edge because of what they considered an abuse of power. A new group of time bombs were created because of this that didn't exist before.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:36 pm to Obtuse1
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So is it fair to say that you feel you can condemn bad actions and still not blame one for trying to right perceived wrong even though you think the action is disagreeable?
Yes, and to cut your "gotcha" off at the pass, this can also apply to the members of BLM who truly believe in the need to address police actions and aren't in it just for the looting/burning as an excuse to loot/burn. I don't agree with what they're doing, but I understand why they would do it.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:37 pm to Salmon
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actually its what you said
It's not. It's you projecting. No biggie.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:38 pm to LNCHBOX
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It's you projecting.
I don't think you know what this means.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:38 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
Lol imagine TD if some BLM people tried to kidnap a Republican governor
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:38 pm to El Magnifico
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and there is no political solution.
Vote them out of office and elect people that align with your viewpoints.
Our system, while not perfect, is better than having elected officials facing harm or credible threat of harm due to policy.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:39 pm to Salmon
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I don't think you know what this means.
I mean, you can't follow a topic and stay on it. I'm not too concerned with what you think I know.
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