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re: 13 charged in plots to kidnap Michigan Gov. Whitmer, target state government

Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by HT713
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:09 pm to
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don't you understand


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No



well, at least you're self-aware
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:10 pm to
Not sure if posted yet, but apparently they are actually a Anarchist group, not a "right wing militia" as the media is salivating for them to be. Literally a video from one of the arrested members:

LINK
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:10 pm to
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They also considered potentially killing innocent Michiganians as a "distraction" by blowing up a bridge.


"acting like a tyrant has consequences"
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:11 pm to
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the only reason why you are so adamant about just keeping it about the governor is because you know you won't be consistent with this position


How would I not be? What she has done is tyrannical. If a republican governor ever did what she did, I would feel the same way. You are ignoring that I'm only talking about the specific actions of this one governor, not some broad, undefined version of tyranny.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:11 pm to
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They also considered potentially killing innocent Michiganians as a "distraction" by blowing up a bridge.


"acting like a tyrant has consequences"


a clown take that was completely expected.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:12 pm to
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I see someone supports terrorism.


Terrorist is just another name for rebel. They are rebels until they are against the US then they become terrorist.

I am not saying I approve of these people's behavior, I am just saying you can make the argument they are rebels.. Wasn't the US built on the idea of overthrowing a government? (right of revolution or something like that?).

Personally, I think this Covid situation was completely mishandled from the jump and even after it was mishandled, there was still no plan made to proceed forward which is the reason it has become as political as it has.

The federal government wants to get involved in everything else.. But when an unknown virus pops up, then all of a sudden it was thrown to the states to handle, who needed the help of the federal government.

Pandemics, natural disasters & infrastructure are three of only several things the federal government should be involved in (at least IMO) and when the pandemic hit, it was first ignored, then you didn't know (and still don't) who to listen to.

You got the POTUS tweeting out some voodoo queen doctor telling the public some bullshite, you have people saying what she said was irresponsible.. And we wonder why shite is getting chaotic?

No one has answers and if they did, you don't know who to trust.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:12 pm to
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well, at least you're self-aware



Yea, I wouldn't have bothered reading further as well.
Posted by HT713
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:14 pm to
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This is what happens when you do what's been done.


can someone give me a brief breakdown of the shite that she's done that justifies

* kidnaping the governor

* potentially doxxing and/or harming cops

* potentially bombing a bridge and killing civilians as a distraction

I'm not being facetious, idk what's gone on in michigan.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:14 pm to
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* potentially doxxing and/or harming cops

* potentially bombing a bridge and killing civilians as a distraction

I'm not being facetious, idk what's gone on in michigan.




No one has attempted to justify those things.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:15 pm to
I heard he's a member of Antianarchist. You can't be an anarchist of you're a member of Antianarchist.

Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:15 pm to
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If a republican governor ever did what she did, I would feel the same way.


would bar owners be justified in kidnapping Abbott?

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You are ignoring that I'm only talking about the specific actions of this one governor, not some broad, undefined version of tyranny.


"acting like a tyrant has consequences"

that seems pretty broad to me
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124293 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:16 pm to
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I heard he's a member of Antianarchist. You can't be an anarchist of you're a member of Antianarchist.



The spin surrounding ANTIFA is fricking hilarious I do admit. They are ANTI-FASCIST, they have to be good!
Posted by HT713
Galations 4:16
Member since Jan 2011
10028 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:16 pm to
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No one has attempted to justify those things.



LINK

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She's actively ruining many lives, frick her. Those in government should suffer when they destroy lives with no regard.


is this that, "gaslighting" thing I keep hearing so much about
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:17 pm to
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would bar owners be justified in kidnapping Abbott?


Has his power been stripped away by the State Legislature and he still try to cling to it? Again, you're not comparing apples to apples.

quote:

"acting like a tyrant has consequences"

that seems pretty broad to me


Taken out of the context of the discussion, sure.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:17 pm to
I'm failing to see where what I said applies to those groups, but you do you.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44052 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:18 pm to
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The federal government wants to get involved in everything else.. But when an unknown virus pops up, then all of a sudden it was thrown to the states to handle,


Because Trump knew that any type of lockdown order or mandate he put in place would be challenged in court within about ten seconds (and rightfully so).

There was talk of using the ICC to justify no travel between states, but that got shitcanned quick too.

The point remains that FedGov does not have the authority to issue a nation-wide lockdown order. That is purely a state and local government function.





This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85143 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:19 pm to
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Has his power been stripped away by the State Legislature and he still try to cling to it?


I don't know

But he did forcibly shut them down repeatedly and ruin lives, so by this quote from you, you should support it

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She's actively ruining many lives, frick her. Those in government should suffer when they destroy lives with no regard.


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Taken out of the context of the discussion, sure.



It was a direct reply to me telling you that you support acts of terrorism.

How is that taking it out of context?
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:20 pm to
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She put major restrictions on personal movement throughout the state and on the economy, although many of those limits have been lifted.


Don't know the extent of her restrictions but if she did it to protect people and keep people from getting sick then I mean she did it with good cause. Not just to close down and be like "deal with it".
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
87033 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:21 pm to
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I don't know

But he did forcibly shut them down repeatedly and ruin lives, so by this quote from you, you should support it


The answer was no. So my thoughts on Whitmer are not applicable to him.
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It was a direct reply to me telling you that you support acts of terrorism.

How is that taking it out of context?


because it was only about her. Stop trying to apply it elsewhere. Or keep doing it, I no longer care. This circular debate is boring.
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