re: 1 in 5 Oklahoma households have zero or negative net worth

I bet illegal immigrants are not considered in the numbers.

I know some places here in Alabama where there are apartments that have Haitians stacked inside like cordwood. It's just as bad for a lot of immigrants from some other countries. And Alabama is not even a particularly friendly state for illegals! (well, other than the counties with chicken processing plants).

I can only imagine what it would be like in California once you get outside of Bel Air and Thousand Oaks.

I’m actually surprised percentages are that low. I figured most adults don’t have as much in savings as they owe on a home. Esp younger adults.

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I bet illegal immigrants are not considered in the numbers.

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If they don’t have a drivers license or w2, they definitely aren’t counted. I’m not sure the methodology, but there is no way to account for people that don’t have any kind of financial footprint

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Not in Oklahoma, they’re methed up Indians (feather not dot) that spend their government checks on slot machines By that logic alone, New Mexico should be the highest

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Without doubt, this map would perfectly overlay states with the largest populations who identity as subsistence/homesteaders.

You never see them side by side because the first map is used to show an unequal distribution of wealth, while the latter identifies groups that intentionally avoids participation in modern society…and you can’t have it both ways.

This is the part I’m struggling with when I see California’s low percentage on the map, and it probably doesn’t count the homeless, but I guess many of the people on welfare and Medicaid must also own homes and have a great deal of equity in them. Also, data indicate that about 40+% of California residents rent.

“• SNAP / CalFresh (Food Stamps): Approximately 13.9% of California’s population (about 5.47 million people) receive Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits.

• Medi-Cal (Medicaid): Roughly 30% to 32% of the state's population relies on Medi-Cal for health coverage.

• CalWORKs (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families / Cash Aid): Around 890,000 individuals (about 350,000 families) participate in CalWORKs, which is roughly 2.2% of the state's total population.

• Overall Public Assistance / Multiple Programs: According to the Public Policy Institute of California, about one-third of California families (around 4.5 million families total) receive some form of public assistance, with roughly one-quarter participating in major means-tested welfare programs.”

This probably isn't the case in Oklahoma, but in some wealthier states, people aged roughly 23-32 can have good jobs and a decent home or apartment yet have negative net worth on paper due to student loan debt.

Not that I think these balloning student loans are a good thing, but it's hard to view those people as really being in as bad straits as some Wal-Mart worker with no college education who's deeply into debt and has little chance at career advancement.