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re: % blame assigned to the terrorist vs his/her weapon(s) of choice?

Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:16 am to
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:16 am to
We pretty much eliminated drug use when we outlawed drugs. Same will happen with guns.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:16 am to
After a terrorist attacks, citizen's rights to privacy and gun ownership always come under attack.

I assign blame to the terrorist that carried this out and the channels he used to become radicalized.
Posted by SmoothOperator96
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:19 am to
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% blame assigned to the terrorist vs his/her weapon(s) of choice?

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This thread is ducking dumb,

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74571 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:22 am to
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I hate this argument. We shouldn't want to make it easy for someone to carry out these attacks.



Fair enough. You want to make it harder for them to carry out such attacks? Here's how you do it.

1. Secure our borders. Stop the unfettered flood of people coming into this country who have no interest in assimilating into American society and instead want to impose their own backwards ideology on the rest of us.

2. End the PC bullshite that allows people like the Orlando shooter and others like him go about their plans because people are afraid to say something out of fear they'll be branded a racist and/or islamaphobe.

3. Identify those already here among us who are radicalized and wanting to impose their Islamic extremist ideology on the rest of us and deport their arse. This guy in Orlando posted on Facebook before his attacks about how America was bombing "his country". But this fricker was born in New York. This says that despite being born here, he never considered himself an American. Fine, take those who think like him and ship their happy asses back to the Sand Box so they can live in "their country".

But what we don't need to do is surrender our constitutional rights because of some backwards thinking goat fricker wants to turn our country into a greener version of whatever Shitholeistan he or his family came from. We don't need them here. And they don't have a right to even come here. Becoming an American is a privilege and not a right. For some odd reason this country has forgot this fact. It's time we start remembering it.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 10:25 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:23 am to
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2. End the PC bullshite that allows people like the Orlando shooter and others like him go about their plans because people are afraid to say something out of fear they'll be branded a racist and/or islamaphobe.


Nothing disinfects better than sunlight. No group should be shielded by Political Correctness from outside criticism or responsibility.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33865 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:27 am to
According to facebook the gun is 100% at fault.

Apparently it has tentacles and matches on to followers of radical Islam or other easily influenced individuals and takes over their minds and forces their fingers to pull the trigger.

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74571 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:30 am to
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Nothing disinfects better than sunlight. No group should be shielded by Political Correctness from outside criticism or responsibility


Ever since this shitstain of a goat fricker shot up that gay bar this country has been in this big heated debate over guns as though it was the fricking guns fault this happened.

And yet the real reason these attacks happened is being ignored, namely that in both Orlando and San Bernardino the shooters were well known BEFORE to be fricked up and apt to be a terrorist. But in both instances people either kept their mouths shut or had their mouths shut for them all because of political correctness bullshite and fear of being branded a racist. Both attacks could have been prevented but PC bullshite ensured otherwise.

This country has lost it's damn mind and it's spine.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 10:46 am
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
50081 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:33 am to
Meet Mikey, 8: U.S. Has Him on Watch List


This kid (and his father) would be barred from ever owning a weapon.


The list sounds good in theory until someone puts you on it for any random reason and you lose your liberties for no reason
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:34 am to
Carefully planned and executed attack. Carnage would have been the same or similar no matter what instrumentality used. "AR" not feasible, then combination of guns, if not guns, then bombs, chemical or who knows maybe automobile.

Only a damned fool would think that this would have been averted or limited by the availability of a certain thing.
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4596 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:35 am to
How is this not a case study for a more armed society?

One guys can shoot 100 people without anyone firing back and there are hundreds of millions of guns in America alone. If someone wants to kill 100s of people then breaking the law to get a gun will never stop them.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
54210 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:36 am to
Islamonutjob 100%
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:38 am to
Well, it wouldn't have happened on some level, maybe not as brutally. The fact that he had guns doesn't change why he did it. The democrats just seem thoroughly convinced that guns have the power of the One Ring to corrupt innocents to kill other people in mass. The fact that they refuse to answer why this happened is pretty sickening.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 10:41 am
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:42 am to
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Unless you are living under a rock you know that some in government are saying that if guns weren't so readily available the Orlando night club incident wouldn't have happened.

My question to the OT is simply how do you personally assign blame?


Guns are harmless unless you have the drive to use them to kill. Stricter gun laws hasn't helped France nor San Bernadino.

No one says "Oh, look! A gun! I've never thought about killing someone until now and I have a few minutes sooo..." Focus on the motivation, not the tool.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 10:44 am
Posted by shiftworker
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Member since Dec 2011
5374 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:47 am to
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Only a fool would think that this would have been averted or limited by the availability of a certain thing.




I agree with this. The tool isn't important. The ideology is what is dangerous here.

A car is used for transportation until.........terrorist

A knife is used to cut vegetables until......terrorist

Fertilizer and diesel are used on a farm to grow food until.......terrorist

A pressure cooker........etc
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:48 am to
100%
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:49 am to
Dems realize this hurts their chances so they are changing the narrative from terrorism to gun control using their media accomplices.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5360 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:55 am to
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My question to the OT is simply how do you personally assign blame?


I start with blaming the savage who committed this atrocity along with ideology and all the complicit practitioners and their supporters.
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