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re: Would you trade for Josh Rosen?
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:50 pm to GEAUXTIGER23
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:50 pm to GEAUXTIGER23
Absolutely not. I’d much rather try to convince Teddy to wait 1-2 more years to be the guy.
And from what I’ve seen I would rather Taysom. Rosen is very meh.
And from what I’ve seen I would rather Taysom. Rosen is very meh.
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:51 pm to saintsfan22
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Pretty similar to Drew's stats from his 3rd year in the league. The Cardinals had nothing but Fitz on his last legs and a ruined David Johnson.
not many rookie QBs set the league on fire. Imagine judging a guy after 13 starts
I mean even Peyton Manning was 3–13 and completed 56% of his passes with more INTs than TDs his rookie year
These morons said the same thing about Goff
Rosen was on a terrible team with terrible coaches with a terrible offensive scheme. Cardinals has worst pass blocking OL. Dude got sacked 45 times and PFF only credit 7 that were actually his fault. He was even the 4th quickest getting rid of the ball yet still saw the most pressure in the league other than Watson. 80.9 passer rating in a clean pocket, which isn’t terrible considering
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:56 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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And from what I’ve seen I would rather Taysom. Rosen is very meh.
Hill is 28, has 8 3/4” trump hands, led our team in special teams snaps, and we traded a 3rd for one year of a backup QB. Guy has 7 passes to his name and has looked like arse for most of them
If SP thought he was anything he would not be leading our special teams in snaps nor would he waste a 3rd round pick on teddy, don’t ya think?
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:04 pm to GynoSandberg
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not many rookie QBs set the league on fire. Imagine judging a guy after 13 starts
I mean even Peyton Manning was 3–13 and completed 56% of his passes with more INTs than TDs his rookie year
Totally different game.
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These morons said the same thing about Goff
You think he'd be better without Sean McVay? This is a guy that audibles for him til the last damn second.
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Rosen was on a terrible team with terrible coaches with a terrible offensive scheme. Cardinals has worst pass blocking OL. Dude got sacked 45 times and PFF only credit 7 that were actually his fault. He was even the 4th quickest getting rid of the ball yet still saw the most pressure in the league other than Watson. 80.9 passer rating in a clean pocket, which isn’t terrible considering
Agreed. He's still young. But the other two are a little different. I don't think Rosen is a bum, I actually thought he'd be the best of his draft class.
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:21 pm to htran90
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Totally different game.
Rookie QBs struggling have nothing to do with the era, especially ones set up to fail year 1
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You think he'd be better without Sean McVay? This is a guy that audibles for him til the last damn second.
That’s part of the point. Rosen had none of the vital components for success
Goff takes the next step when he gets a great offensive minded coach, a top OL, and multiple weapons at his disposal
Imagine Rosen in LA, or here.
Having Rosen on a rookie deal for 3 more years (2 post Brees) would also allow us to spend on thomas and co. I don’t see us getting in on him but I’d rather trade for him than AB
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:23 pm to GEAUXTIGER23
Honestly, Give up a third next year or give up a second next year with the option to swap thirds (if they suck), and its not a bad deal.
You'd get a young QB with talent to develop and he'd be on the cheap. You still have Hill as a back up also, and don't have to spend money on Bridgewater at this time.
Arizona doesn't have much leverage at this point, since most people feel they are taking Murray at #1.
That said, I am not a fan of Rosen, and think you can get good talent late at QB in this draft. Hell, this draft is pretty weak at the top of the draft for QB, but tons of potential guys in the middle. I think Shurmur or Grier would be solid potential picks in the mid-rounds.
You'd get a young QB with talent to develop and he'd be on the cheap. You still have Hill as a back up also, and don't have to spend money on Bridgewater at this time.
Arizona doesn't have much leverage at this point, since most people feel they are taking Murray at #1.
That said, I am not a fan of Rosen, and think you can get good talent late at QB in this draft. Hell, this draft is pretty weak at the top of the draft for QB, but tons of potential guys in the middle. I think Shurmur or Grier would be solid potential picks in the mid-rounds.
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:38 pm to shamrock
quote:He is, actually, according to his teammates.
dude ain’t a leader, I don’t care how good his arm is
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:55 pm to GEAUXTIGER23
the fact that the cards are already looking to greener pastures after drafting Rosen last year, tells me that there is more than meets the eye
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:21 pm to DeionDeion
Or they have their choice of any player in the draft, under a new HC who happened to watch Murray tear up the B12. Alao fits schematically better than Rosen. Kingsbury and Murray also share an agent
The whole league is drooling over Murray right now after the combine, it’s not just kingsbury
And really if the cardinals were smart they’d keep Rosen and trade 1 overall for a haul. But their GM is a millionaire who is dumb enough to get a DWI, forced Arians into retirement, and hired guys like Steve wilks and Mike McCoy. So who knows what they’re doing
The whole league is drooling over Murray right now after the combine, it’s not just kingsbury
And really if the cardinals were smart they’d keep Rosen and trade 1 overall for a haul. But their GM is a millionaire who is dumb enough to get a DWI, forced Arians into retirement, and hired guys like Steve wilks and Mike McCoy. So who knows what they’re doing
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:22 pm to Spelt it rong
Fair enough, but I weigh the fact that moving him from the front office perspective is pretty telling as the above poster noted. I wouldn’t have drafted him in the first place though if I was paying with my money as he just doesn’t have the intangibles I personally like in the face of your organization. But if the Saints got him I’d certainly be pulling for him.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:26 pm to htran90
Payton could do the same thing for Rosen or another young guy
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:39 pm to shamrock
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but I weigh the fact that moving him from the front office perspective is pretty telling as the above poster noted.
Their front office is shite though.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:39 pm to GEAUXTIGER23
I would if it doesn't take a tremendous amount to get him.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:44 pm to GynoSandberg
Bingo!
Give this man the cigar!
Give this man the cigar!
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:58 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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I’d much rather try to convince Teddy to wait 1-2 more years to be the guy.
No way in hell do you get Bridgewater for less than $15 mill a year. He ain't worth that. Maybe he goes and starts for a team like Washington and in turn the Saints get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick. He is not the future in New Orleans.
Hill is best used as a special role type guy.
To obtain a good qb it will require a lot of luck in draft ( a sleeper or someone falling), a ton of draft collateral, or a ton of cap space on a free agent.
This allows them to pay MT, AK, and Lattimore. Spending big on a free agent QB means one or 2 of those are gone.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 6:06 pm to GEAUXTIGER23
It sure would be nice to have say $20 mill in cap space. Brees currently eating up $33 or so ain't helping a ton.
I think you role the dice if Payton is still head coach after next year. I just see him moving on if there is no Brees or suitable replacement. I honestly get the sick feeling ole Jerruh Jones nabs him with an insane offer.
I think you role the dice if Payton is still head coach after next year. I just see him moving on if there is no Brees or suitable replacement. I honestly get the sick feeling ole Jerruh Jones nabs him with an insane offer.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 6:33 pm to GEAUXTIGER23
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Would you trade for Josh Rosen?
NO.
2019 win Super Bowl. Brees retires after the game.
2020 TANK!!! Finish the season 3-13 or something similar to get a top 3 draft pick.
2021 draft our future QB in the first round.
2024 Saints become 3x Super Bowl champs!
Posted on 3/4/19 at 6:56 pm to Cleanmatt
Sean Payton’s contract is up after 2020. I doubt he’s looking to go through a tanking phase, especially with a young defense, an OL in tact and Kamara, Thomas etc in their prime under new deals
The past few drafts have set us up nicely, but you have to have a QB or it’s all for nothing
The past few drafts have set us up nicely, but you have to have a QB or it’s all for nothing
Posted on 3/4/19 at 6:57 pm to Cleanmatt
No.
Dude got injured repeatedly in college, and had issues with injuries last year.
Granted he had a shitty OL, but he is too risky because of the amount of injuries he has already incurred.
Dude got injured repeatedly in college, and had issues with injuries last year.
Granted he had a shitty OL, but he is too risky because of the amount of injuries he has already incurred.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 8:37 pm to GEAUXTIGER23
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No way in hell do you get Bridgewater for less than $15 mill a year. He ain't worth that. Maybe he goes and starts for a team like Washington and in turn the Saints get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick. He is not the future in New Orleans.
Why are you so sure Teddy can’t be the guy? He’s in the perfect situation - behind a HOF guy about to retire and a bunch of young talented guys around him.
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