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re: Why wouldn't the saints get Michael Vick?
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:29 pm to GynoSandberg
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:29 pm to GynoSandberg
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im going to go out on a limb and say he contributes to some team this coming year.
I can give you that, if he is reinstated that is....
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Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:30 pm to Suntiger
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Vick was never that much of a legit throw option
compared to a fricking running back? jesus
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Are you saying we should trade Brees for someone like D. McNabb just because they have an added run option?
Where do you get this from?
how does it go from me thinking Vick would be a nice change of pace for 5-10 plays a game to me thinking we should totally replace Drew Brees full time with a running QB?
This has nothing to do with Drew Brees. ZERO. NADA. I don't know where that comes from.
It has nothing to do with Brees mobility.
It has everything to do with the lack of run game.
Vick, being there as a backup, would be lagniappe if Brees got hurt(god forbid).
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and the added wildcat formation only takes away touches where he might do something great.
Do something great? like hand the ball off? fricking awesome.
Like I said earlier, and see if you can follow this...
On a predetermined running play, why would it matter if Drew Brees or Michael Vick were behind center? think about it.
Brees, like any QB that has ever played, has no use once the ball is handed off. He cannont do anything great. He cannot win a ball game. He isnt being ignored. He just becomes irrelevant because he is not going to touch the ball on that play. So in a sense he is already out of the game.
Its not like he is no-huddling and doesn't know what kind of play we are going to run by the time he gets to the line.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:31 pm to GynoSandberg
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what's the common theme of all those guys you just named?
I know what you are saying, but Vick was a very physical QB. He could have 3 to 4 more years of playing, if he could not get hit like he was.
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and it would take vick time, but he would be ready by mid season. im going to go out on a limb and say he contributes to some team this coming year.
I don't think Goodell reinstates him this year. He still has 2 more months of home confinement, has to undergo physiological evaluations and has lied numerous times to Goodell and Arther Blank about his involvement. Then, and only then, can he truly get into football shape. I don't see him on the field this year.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:32 pm to whodatfan
I really do not think he has lost a step. shite, the time off may have worked in his favor. His best asset is obviously his running ability, and you do not forget how to run and find a hole.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:33 pm to GynoSandberg
LT says Ron Mexico aint' got shite on him as a passser.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:34 pm to GynoSandberg
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what's the common theme of all those guys you just named?
all RB's, and....
Deuce and Alexander- serious knee injuries. Deuce, 2 serious knee injuries.
Alexander's case, numerous 300 carry seasons. Pounding after pounding.
Tomlinson, 300 carry seasons out the wazoo. which led to continuous knicks and bruises.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:35 pm to GynoSandberg
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I really do not think he has lost a step. shite, the time off may have worked in his favor. His best asset is obviously his running ability, and you do not forget how to run and find a hole.
There will be an obvious lack of football speed that he needs to get used to again. This may only take a couple of months. If he stayed in shape, then yes, he probably hasn't lost much. I don't think the time off worked in his favor. He could have been getting better at the game of football for those two years.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:37 pm to Lester Earl
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all RB's, and....
Deuce and Alexander- serious knee injuries. Deuce, 2 serious knee injuries.
Alexander's case, numerous 300 carry seasons. Pounding after pounding.
Tomlinson, 300 carry seasons out the wazoo. which led to continuous knicks and bruise
I agree with all of this. My point was age is age. 30 years old is not 22. Vick took a pounding, not like LT and nor does he have the injuries.....but Vick at 27 and Vick at 30...especially not being in football...there has to be some drop off...has to be damnit!!!!
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:38 pm to GynoSandberg
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you do not forget how to run and find a hole.
never have, never will....
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:39 pm to whodatfan
mouth's butthole doesnt count 
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:40 pm to Lester Earl
damn, why you gotta bring Mouth into this?
This post was edited on 5/27/09 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:42 pm to Lester Earl
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mouth's butthole doesnt count
Sure it does....if he's in to that sort of thing....not that there is anything wrong with that.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:43 pm to SaintEB
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not that there is anything wrong with that.
there is so much that is wrong with that.
this is the type of hole i was referring to:
This post was edited on 5/27/09 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:52 pm to tubucoco
last time vick played in the nfl he rushed for 1,039 yards on 123 attempts.. 8.4 avg.
he was good for 65 yards rushing a game on only 7-8 attempts a game.
he could be a very effective 5-10 play a game guy for any franchise.. but i still hope to see him as a starting qb somewhere.
he was good for 65 yards rushing a game on only 7-8 attempts a game.
he could be a very effective 5-10 play a game guy for any franchise.. but i still hope to see him as a starting qb somewhere.
This post was edited on 5/27/09 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 5/27/09 at 3:33 pm to Lester Earl
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mouth's butthole doesnt count
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Sure it does....if he's in to that sort of thing
maybe a pinkie every now and again
Posted on 5/27/09 at 3:39 pm to Mouth
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maybe a pinkie every now and again
Posted on 5/28/09 at 1:10 am to Lester Earl
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they take the ball out of his hands every time they run the ball. So whats the difference if its Vick or Reggie Bush or Pierre Thomas?
Valid point.
The other reason I didnt list is, is it really worth the ridiculous media coverage we would get for a backup QB or a QB who takes 5 snaps per game??
If we had Vick, I can't envision us having a really successful season and thinking we couldn't have done the exact same thing without Mike Vick.
Posted on 5/28/09 at 12:52 pm to BayouLSUcajun
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We could have the best offense in the league
I thought we already did.
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