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re: What will be the Saints plan of action at WR for the next 4 weeks?
Posted on 9/9/11 at 7:57 pm to sevenjackson
Posted on 9/9/11 at 7:57 pm to sevenjackson
Moss won't go over the middle like Colston does for us, Meach and Dev won't be as effective in that role either. Best bet is AA in that role..or do I dare say..TO.. 
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Posted on 9/9/11 at 8:02 pm to BlacknGold
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AA is injured when did this happen?
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I thought you guys followed the Saints closer than you lead on to. He was questionable for the game last night - something is up with him.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 8:04 pm to Bayou
he's fine dude...questionable is definitely no an indictment...he got in once or twice last night
Posted on 9/9/11 at 9:29 pm to St Augustine
i believe we stay where we are and use thomas and grahm in some packages together- basically use jimmy as a replacement for colston when size is needed. i guess we shall see.....
Posted on 9/10/11 at 5:57 am to LsuSaintsMan
And so it begins again in 2011.
Is there another team in the NFL that has as many injuries year after year as the Saints? We know it's part of the game, but just seems like something is not quite right with the Saints strength and conditioning program. I may be wrong, but this team just has too many injuries each season.
Is there another team in the NFL that has as many injuries year after year as the Saints? We know it's part of the game, but just seems like something is not quite right with the Saints strength and conditioning program. I may be wrong, but this team just has too many injuries each season.
Posted on 9/10/11 at 7:41 am to Bayou
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I thought you guys followed the Saints closer than you lead on to. He was questionable for the game last night - something is up with him.
He played some snaps in the game, asshat. We're on our game. You? Not so much.
Posted on 9/10/11 at 3:35 pm to sevenjackson
We need to invest in New personnel soon might as well get started now. These injuries are too repetitive
Collar bones tend to break more easily once injured and we need more explosive threat like Randall Cobb in this offense
Collar bones tend to break more easily once injured and we need more explosive threat like Randall Cobb in this offense
Posted on 9/10/11 at 3:41 pm to SuperRemo
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We need to invest in New personnel soon might as well get started now.
in week 2 of the regular season? who you have in mind?
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Collar bones tend to break more easily once injured
please, oh please share your medical insight with me on this one.
Actually I'll save you the trouble...you're talking out of your arse with the amount of information that has been made available.
This post was edited on 9/10/11 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 9/10/11 at 4:13 pm to St Augustine
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please, oh please share your medical insight with me on this one.
Actually I'll save you the trouble...you're talking out of your arse with the amount of information that has been made available.
Just relying on my medical degree actually.
But just to name a recent example, charles rogers sustained multiple clavicular fractures.
It really depends on where the break occurred and if he is rehabbing via surgery or immobilization. If just a sling then don't expect full ROM until after at least a month and some. If surgery 6-9 months until full range of motion returns (ROM).
The more lateral the fracture on the bone the worse the prognosis for recovery without surgery.
This post was edited on 9/10/11 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 9/10/11 at 4:17 pm to SuperRemo
I don't think we need another receiver. If we want to go 4 wide, why can't Graham just line up wide? Make Dave Thomas TE for the 11 personnel packages. I think if we used 21 personnel it might actually help the run game.
Posted on 9/10/11 at 4:17 pm to SuperRemo
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We need to invest in New personnel soon might as well get started now. These injuries are too repetitive Collar bones tend to break more easily once injured and we need more explosive threat like Randall Cobb in this offense
You are beyond idiot. I didn't think it was possible, but you proved me wrong.
Posted on 9/10/11 at 4:18 pm to St Augustine
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arrington has some size. this really his time or no time
he was active in that game. Definitely his opp. Showing up big- as in the Colston big target type role could be a very big factor when it comes to negotiating a new contract for Colston next year. I love the quiet storm but the durability could end up being a swing factor. In today's NFL ya gotta keep cycling in some fresh talent- both for the speed of the game and salary cap mgmt.
besides he's our only WR with an old school 80s #
Posted on 9/10/11 at 4:21 pm to whodatfan
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You are beyond idiot. I didn't think it was possible, but you proved me wrong.
If you take an objective look you'll realize our wr corps has remained the same for 5 yrs now since the yr meachem was acquired. That is not a recipe for continued success. You need to take your homer googles off.
Perhaps you'd like to debate the issue of production and other league wide examples instead of resorting to juvenile aspersions, if, that is, you can muster the resources..
This post was edited on 9/10/11 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 9/10/11 at 4:46 pm to SuperRemo
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If you take an objective look you'll realize our wr corps has remained the same for 5 yrs now since the yr meachem was acquired. That is not a recipe for continued success. You need to take your homer googles off.
Yeah, you are right. 5 years is waaaaaaay too long to have the same receivers on the roster. Our offense has been tops in the league since 06, but we are in a decline now. I get it. We didn't march down the field on one of the best teams in the league and hang 35 points on them. Our receivers are poo. I agree, we should overhaul the roster in week 2 and get a fresh group of guys that can stay healthy for gods sake. I'm with you brother.
Posted on 9/10/11 at 5:21 pm to SuperRemo
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It really depends on where the break occurred and if he is rehabbing via surgery or immobilization. If just a sling then don't expect full ROM until after at least a month and some. If surgery 6-9 months until full range of motion returns (ROM).
The more lateral the fracture on the bone the worse the prognosis for recovery without surgery.
Well obviously if its an intraarticular fx, its going to be significantly worse...I'd assume its not as they are only saying 4-8 weeks. And yeah I know what ROM is being that I perform it on pts on a daily basis. You provided zero evidence of increased likeliness of refracture after full healing. In fact I'd argue that if allowed to truly heal, the clavicular shaft will grow back stronger. If it is intraatricular or has ligamentous involvement, then of course it will never be the same. It is professional football and he plays a position where falling on outstretched upper extremities, as well as getting hit in that area after catching the ball is common. I'd say his likeliness of re-injuring it is more contingent upon his position than previous injury.
So yeah, I think I'll go with what I have actually experienced and known to be the likely prognosis of such injury instead of trusting your "medical degree" and the peer reviewed classic case of Charles Rogers"
This post was edited on 9/10/11 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 9/10/11 at 5:29 pm to whodatfan
I think we will be fine with the rotation we have. If anything it will make us focus more on the run game which I believe we will have one of the best this year
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:20 am to SuperRemo
I can't wrap my head around the logic of saying "frick off" to one of the league's most consistently productive receivers over the last 5 years, in favor of a rookie who scored two touchdowns in his first ever game.
Ohbytheway, on Cobb's touchdown catch, he ran the wrong fricking route. Said so himself.
I'll keep Colston, please.
Ohbytheway, on Cobb's touchdown catch, he ran the wrong fricking route. Said so himself.
I'll keep Colston, please.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:22 am to I Speak As I Please
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Is there another team in the NFL that has as many injuries year after year as the Saints? We know it's part of the game, but just seems like something is not quite right with the Saints strength and conditioning program. I may be wrong, but this team just has too many injuries each season.
The Saints have, on average, about the same amount of injuries per season as any other team. It's more likely that you don't keep up with injured players on any team other than the Saints. The Packers were decimated last season, but got healthy and caught fire at the right time.
The Chicken Littles on this board are just.. maddening and sickening.
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 1:25 am
Posted on 9/11/11 at 7:31 am to Hulkklogan
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The Chicken Littles on this board are just.. maddening
Yup
As far as WR corp. all I can say is that for 3-4 years we have all talked about our great WR depth. Well lets see what we got before we S-can the whole group.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 12:05 pm to St Augustine
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Well obviously if its an intraarticular fx, its going to be significantly worse...I'd assume its not as they are only saying 4-8 weeks. And yeah I know what ROM is being that I perform it on pts on a daily basis. You provided zero evidence of increased likeliness of refracture after full healing. In fact I'd argue that if allowed to truly heal, the clavicular shaft will grow back stronger. If it is intraatricular or has ligamentous involvement, then of course it will never be the same. It is professional football and he plays a position where falling on outstretched upper extremities, as well as getting hit in that area after catching the ball is common. I'd say his likeliness of re-injuring it is more contingent upon his position than previous injury.
So yeah, I think I'll go with what I have actually experienced and known to be the likely prognosis of such injury instead of trusting your "medical degree" and the peer reviewed classic case of Charles Rogers"
If this is a classic case of displaced mid clavicle fracture, I would err on the conservative side and opt for surgical treatment, ORIF, instead of buying the athlete 2-3 extra weeks. That's just my clinical judgment but open to interpretation.
There are some studies that show a higher nonunion rates in the conservative treatment groups.
There also other studies that show that going the conservative route and then waiting to see if nonunion occurs before surgical intervention will give an equivalent outcome to getting the ORIF initially.
Many variables obviously. I don't really think position is really important unless its a kicker or punter.
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