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What rank did/does our Defense need to be to make deep playoff run?
Posted on 1/24/16 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 1/24/16 at 7:18 pm
I would say top 50% to get into playoffs.
Top 30% to win a playoff game/get a bye.
Top 30% to win a playoff game/get a bye.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 7:26 pm to Pectus
Will never happen until some mean physical defenders come down, throw your rankings out the window we need some attitude.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 7:33 pm to Pectus
We can make the playoffs ranked 32nd on D, just not a historically bad last place defense. We've had about 3-4 record setting years for defensive ineptitude. If we are just an average or an above average last place defense (one that maybe at least forces turnovers at a decent rate) we will win 10-11 games. As far as making a legit, deep run we won the super bowl with #20th ranked defense in 2009. But again that defense was elite at turning the ball over and scoring points. Turnovers, 3rd down %, and Red Zone % are all more important stats than yardage given up.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 8:49 pm to Pectus
After careful observation of the post season, the Saints aren't nearly in the same realm of defense of these other teams. That needs to be addressed heavily in the draft.
They need help on the lines especially because pressuring the opposing QB was non existent this season.
They need help on the lines especially because pressuring the opposing QB was non existent this season.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:04 pm to JS87
Each team in the championship teams is were about 3 deep at DE or OLB (for denver). That's not including their DTs. We have one Cameron Jordan and a few potential guys in Davison and Richardson. DL is definitely a need.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:05 pm to Pectus
29th?
32nd has not been working.

32nd has not been working.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:22 pm to Pectus
Around 15, last week I checked all 4 playoff teams they were all top 10.
Saints were #1 offense on some sort maybe overall, other sorts around top 5.
Saints were #1 offense on some sort maybe overall, other sorts around top 5.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:40 pm to Pectus
Depends on how much better we make our offense. Still not convinced we have the pass catchers to make any kind of legit playoff run when the stakes are high....against these good defenses. So with that being the case we would need a significantly improved d to top 10ish to legitimately compete. If we shore up the o line with an improvement at one of the guard spots and get a legitimate receiving threat on the outside and I think more importantly out of the backfield, then somewhere in the middle of the pack that makes some timely plays would benefit.
We just haven't played complimentary football well the past few years. I trust our front office /coaches more in getting the offense back to elite. And I realize that we are highly ranked statistically when it comes to yardage, but if anyone and I mean ANYONE thinks our current ability to move the ball and pressure opposing teams is equivalent to the "frick you we're gonna carve your arse up, try and keep up" offenses of our 2 big years then they are strictly going by stats/rankings and not watching week in/out.
Guard, pass catching game breaker out of backfield, another guy at wr/pass catching te combined with a continued influx in young front 7 defensively that helps cam get pressure and we're in business.
We just haven't played complimentary football well the past few years. I trust our front office /coaches more in getting the offense back to elite. And I realize that we are highly ranked statistically when it comes to yardage, but if anyone and I mean ANYONE thinks our current ability to move the ball and pressure opposing teams is equivalent to the "frick you we're gonna carve your arse up, try and keep up" offenses of our 2 big years then they are strictly going by stats/rankings and not watching week in/out.
Guard, pass catching game breaker out of backfield, another guy at wr/pass catching te combined with a continued influx in young front 7 defensively that helps cam get pressure and we're in business.
This post was edited on 1/24/16 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:39 pm to Pectus
The 2012 Saints, worst defense in NFL histroy, no playoff apperance.
2012 Steelers, number one defense, no playoff apperance.
2012 Steelers, number one defense, no playoff apperance.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:55 pm to Pectus
It needs to be top 5 honestly
Posted on 1/24/16 at 11:24 pm to Laaz2750
Would only suffice if home field advantage supplemented it
Posted on 1/25/16 at 3:03 am to Pectus
I don't know if we necessarily have to have a very high ranking as far as defense goes.. yardage wise/points given up.
turnover differential is where its at.
trying to get caught up in yards given up in this era of football is fricking awful.
kind of the same story with points given up. I mean the points/yards are going to come against you at times the way the game is these days.. no getting around it. That is especially true when you have an offense who usually forces teams to keep pace with what we're doing. We usually finish at the top of offensive categories.
turnover differential is where its at.
trying to get caught up in yards given up in this era of football is fricking awful.
kind of the same story with points given up. I mean the points/yards are going to come against you at times the way the game is these days.. no getting around it. That is especially true when you have an offense who usually forces teams to keep pace with what we're doing. We usually finish at the top of offensive categories.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 9:29 am to LooseCannon22282
The worst defenses to make a superbowl LINK
Old article isn't including recent teams, but you get the gist. Summary:
2011 Patriots - 31st in Yards Allowed, 15th in Scoring. Lost to the Giants
2008 Cards - 28th Scoring. Lost superbowl to Steelers.
1991 Bills - 27th Yards, 19th Scoring. Lost superbowl to Redskins.
Basically, if your defense is bad, you can get to the big game on offense alone, but you're not going to win it.
Edit: Both the broncos and Panthers have really good defenses this year:
Broncos 1st Yards, 4th Scoring
Panthers 6th Yards, 6th Scoring
Old article isn't including recent teams, but you get the gist. Summary:
2011 Patriots - 31st in Yards Allowed, 15th in Scoring. Lost to the Giants
2008 Cards - 28th Scoring. Lost superbowl to Steelers.
1991 Bills - 27th Yards, 19th Scoring. Lost superbowl to Redskins.
Basically, if your defense is bad, you can get to the big game on offense alone, but you're not going to win it.
Edit: Both the broncos and Panthers have really good defenses this year:
Broncos 1st Yards, 4th Scoring
Panthers 6th Yards, 6th Scoring
This post was edited on 1/25/16 at 9:32 am
Posted on 1/25/16 at 1:22 pm to Brandincookem
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Brandincookem
Damn everyone is right. You are worse than Chad.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 1:27 pm to Brandincookem
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Will never happen until some mean physical defenders come down, throw your rankings out the window we need some attitude.
Browner has been physical and had an attitude all year though
Posted on 1/25/16 at 1:36 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
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It needs to be top 5 honestly
lmao. No it doesn't.
The Super Bowl team wasn't a great defense, they just forced turnovers constantly. They were ranked in the 20s for team defense.
It's hard to expect turnovers to be forced at a rate like that, so I'd say something at around 15 and they could make a run. If the offense adds another WR and they fix the interior line they might be able to just destroy teams by using a great offense (2011).
Posted on 1/25/16 at 2:24 pm to htran90
Need more Browners, ones that are actually good at football
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