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re: What coach worth anything would accept our roster/cap situation?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:54 am to WicKed WayZ
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:54 am to WicKed WayZ
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Except I’ve given you plenty of statistics
Very selective and curated ones.
I'm literally giving you total offensive output over 17 games for both seasons, to compare. There was a very marginal improvement with a roster that's almost the same (Saquan + Becton - Kelce & Swift).
0.2 ypp ultimately was that difference.
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But again, you’ll just write that off as “Saquan”
You keep doing this. I never did it. I even went through to show how you are making this up (and you ignored responding then, not shockingly)
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There’s more to an offensive than just ypp.
There are few stats, if any, more important to an offense than ypp.
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He came in and in year 1 improved the offense.
Slightly. About 3.7% (we can ignore the roster improvement since you're so fixated on it)
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Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:58 am to WicKed WayZ
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WicKed WayZ
Good lord you are delusional lol
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
It isn't about Cap Space because with the correct contract, roster moves and acceptance of losing in 2025 and 2026, this could be managed. The issue is control of the organization and how much control will a new coach be given? If Loomis is calling the shots, then you have a Dallas Cowboys situation.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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There are few stats, if any, more important to an offense than ypp.
Over the last 3 games of the 2023 season (which was my argument and not the entire 2023 season), Philly had a ypp of 5.2. Philly’s ypp in 2024 is 5.7 (6.0 if you count their last 3 games since I did that for 2023.)
That’s at least 0.5 and up to 0.8 difference. More than 0.2. There was a 1.0 increase between Canales in Tampa last year and Coen this year. Close to the same impact as Moore in Philly, though Coen was “marginally” better. Yet you seem much more eager to tout Coen as a guru and offensive powerhouse and not Moore.
You’ve also completely ignored how well his offenses have done at other coaching stops and how league circles widely respect him. But whatever man. You’ll argue with a brick wall. I’ve done this with you and Les for the last several years. I know the routine. Have fun arguing with yourself
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:02 am to Lester Earl
So you also believe Moore is not a good offensive mind?
Go back to the Rant with your shitty high school scouting reports. You believe Harlem Berry, the number 1 high school RB in the country, would be better off as a WR and I’m delusional. Got it
Go back to the Rant with your shitty high school scouting reports. You believe Harlem Berry, the number 1 high school RB in the country, would be better off as a WR and I’m delusional. Got it
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 10:06 am
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:03 am to WicKed WayZ
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:11 am to WicKed WayZ
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:16 am to Fun Bunch
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please be Carr
You going to make P Bean mad
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:22 am to WicKed WayZ
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Over the last 3 games of the 2023 season
What about the other 14 games?
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Yet you seem much more eager to tout Coen as a guru and offensive powerhouse and not Moore.
No, I said he was a hot name.
Moore was the young/hot OC candidate years ago, too, but every team has passed on him since that point. I don't see what his 2024 year in Philly did to make him now a viable candidate.
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and how league circles widely respect him.
No I clearly said he's been interviewing for years and not getting jobs.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:23 am to Lester Earl
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You going to make P Bean mad
It's been a bad year for P Bean. He's got a lot of crow to eat for being so wrong, so emotionally, for so many years.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:24 am to SlowFlowPro
Beany lets his emotions get the best of him sometimes
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:24 am to SlowFlowPro
I don't even know what the argument is in this thread, but Moore would be substantially better than I was expecting this cycle.
That doesn't say much since I was expecting a David Culley level hire, but still.
That doesn't say much since I was expecting a David Culley level hire, but still.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:27 am to Fun Bunch
SFP doesn’t think Moore is a good offensive coordinator despite the NFL thinking otherwise. That’s the gist of it
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:30 am to WicKed WayZ
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SFP doesn’t think Moore is a good offensive coordinator
I see your entire platform is just to make shite up and lie
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:31 am to WicKed WayZ
I don't think he's a great one, but I'd say he at least has a decent Offensive mind on him.
I expected us to hire the absolute bottom of the barrel so anyone remotely competent is alright with me right now
I expected us to hire the absolute bottom of the barrel so anyone remotely competent is alright with me right now
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:33 am to SlowFlowPro
How? You clearly don’t think he’s very good if you’ve been arguing against him for three pages
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:33 am to Fun Bunch
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I don't think he's a great one, but I'd say he at least has a decent Offensive mind on him.
Yeah he's a JAG of a candidate. Not a Brian Shottenheimer but certainly not anywhere close to A-tier.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:34 am to WicKed WayZ
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You clearly don’t think he’s very good if you’ve been arguing against him for three pages
He's a JAG of an OC, hence the marginal improvement in Philly this year.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:39 am to SlowFlowPro
JAG = top 7 offenses every year he’s been a coordinator with a health QB
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:43 am to WicKed WayZ
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JAG = top 7 offenses every year he’s been a coordinator with a health QB
He was 8th in yards and 11th in ypp in 2024
*ETA: do you know how many years as OC his team has finished top 7 in yards and ypp? I just looked it up.
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 10:46 am
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