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re: What coach worth anything would accept our roster/cap situation?
Posted on 10/16/24 at 7:29 am to Chalkywhite84
Posted on 10/16/24 at 7:29 am to Chalkywhite84
Yes it takes more than just the head coach, but helps to have the right people in the building. They had a ton of picks and spent them well.
It was easy to think they would have been the Lions and screwed it up with the draft capital they had.
It was easy to think they would have been the Lions and screwed it up with the draft capital they had.
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:04 am to NIH
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It’s the top job in the league
It’s a bottom feeder job in a bottom feeder city. Why did Payton bail only to return to a franchise with juice as he famously said? Why did he covertly try to hit the eject button in 2019 to the Dolphins?
If it’s so attractive why did we hire Dennis Allen? You’re going to be surprised at the poor candidates next time Loomis has to search.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:06 am to SlowFlowPro
You're getting some shite but you aren't wrong. We will not be able to get the perceived top guys available. The situation is so fricking bad, why would they take it?
We will have to either take a chance on a young guy that wants to make his name, or a retread that no one else wants.
Please not a defensive guy for the love of god
We will have to either take a chance on a young guy that wants to make his name, or a retread that no one else wants.
Please not a defensive guy for the love of god
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:10 am to Fun Bunch
Man reading through this thread a lot of people just don't get what SFP is saying.
Yes, there are only 32 of the jobs...but 6-7 of them are available every single year in the NFL.
The Saints job will be ranked close to last. So the guys that are considered "the best" of the candidates will choose other jobs. Some may even defer to another year rather than take the Saints job.
It will be considered a very bad job to take. They will be able to hire a HC.
They will just have to take a chance on a guy not as highly valued.
Yes, there are only 32 of the jobs...but 6-7 of them are available every single year in the NFL.
The Saints job will be ranked close to last. So the guys that are considered "the best" of the candidates will choose other jobs. Some may even defer to another year rather than take the Saints job.
It will be considered a very bad job to take. They will be able to hire a HC.
They will just have to take a chance on a guy not as highly valued.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
LINK
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Source: The New Orleans Saints head coaching vacancy is seen as “one of the most undesirable coaching opportunities we’ve seen in the past decade” according to multiple league personnel I’ve spoken with
The combination of a poor ownership group, lack of a good quarterback, most of the good roster talent being over 30 years old & the teams current cap situation all play key factors here
One contact said “anybody who willingly takes on this job must be desperate for that head coach title in this league”
Another contact told me “New Orleans already isn’t that desirable of a destination, factor in the mess that this franchise is in.. I’d tell everyone & anyone to stay far away”
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Karen is proud of herself. Posts a click bait article already pulled.
Lol, prepare to melt later.
This coach search has been kind to the Saints with Coen/Carrol/Schottenheimer filling spots.
Lol, prepare to melt later.
This coach search has been kind to the Saints with Coen/Carrol/Schottenheimer filling spots.
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 7:40 am
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:40 am to P bean
I mean anyone with a functional brain can see it’s correct for a number of reasons.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:42 am to SlowFlowPro
Anonymous quotes are BS. I haven't believed an anonymous quote since the stupid athlon sec preview magazines made up their own
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:12 am to BilJ
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Depends if we bottom out and are in position to draft a qb worth a frick, ultimately that’s all that matters in this league. The Texans almost instantly went from one of the more dire looking situations to a young, exciting team
This. Plus, Washington is another example.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:15 am to P bean
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Karen is proud of herself. Posts a click bait article already pulled.
Lol, prepare to melt later.
Why would I melt when I've been proven so right and you've been proven so wrong?
You defended signing Carr and trying to win now instead of a quick rebuild where we'd already be on the road to being competitive.
Have you forgotten?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
Saints haven't hired a coach, so I guess you could take that as no one any good wants them, but it seems premature. I know message boards are all about look-at-me these days, but it's annoying as hell. There's some (like me) that come here to discuss the saints, not themselves.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:34 am to msstate7
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Saints haven't hired a coach, so I guess you could take that as no one any good wants them
I mean at this point, the thread was proven correct. None of the top guys want this job.
We're at like tier C of candidates. McCarthy (a retread) or Moore (the OC candidate retread). Even Brady turned us down to remain an OC.
Does this automatically mean the coach will ultimately fail? No. I mean it's theoretically possible Shottenheimer is good in DAL (although very unlikely). However, the quality guys went elsewhere and then the secondary openings got filled by the B-tier.
People laugh at like Carroll, but he'd be perfect in our Culley role. He's a leader and when we're ready to actually start the rebuild, we could get a new guy.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
I mean look, I agree with you. But posting some shite from Jacob Eckberg is cringe as frick 
the dude has no sources and people have called him out for lying before.
the dude has no sources and people have called him out for lying before. Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:43 am to Fun Bunch
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The Saints job will be ranked close to last. So the guys that are considered "the best" of the candidates will choose other jobs. Some may even defer to another year rather than take the Saints job.
Damn
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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None of the top guys want this job.
Really? Outside of Vrabel and Johnson, who we all know were never coming here anyway and were pretty much locked in with the Pats and Bears to begin with, there weren’t any “top guys” You could throw Glenn in there for sure but those were the top 3 and two of them were never really considering going anywhere other than where they went.
I mean look at who some of these fricking teams interviewed. Everyone interviewed some random names out there and almost every team had almost an entirely different list of candidates. I’m not saying you’re wrong in that the Saints aren’t desirable. They aren’t. But you acting like Moore isn’t a good candidate is laughable. He’s widely respected around the league
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
Payton wasn't close to the Saints first choice. They had to take a chance because most didn't want the job, and he's the best HC in team history.
It can work out.
But you (and I) were also right.
Its the last job available for a reason.
It can work out.
But you (and I) were also right.
Its the last job available for a reason.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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People laugh at like Carroll, but he'd be perfect in our Culley role. He's a leader and when we're ready to actually start the rebuild, we could get a new guy.
He’s 73 fricking years old. He could die in his Raiders office chair tomorrow, SFP. I know you’ve been anti organization and anti Loomis for a while and I don’t blame you but get a fricking grip
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:47 am to WicKed WayZ
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Really? Outside of Vrabel and Johnson, who we all know were never coming here anyway and were pretty much locked in with the Pats and Bears to begin with, there weren’t any “top guys” You could throw Glenn in there for sure but those were the top 3 and two of them were never really considering going anywhere other than where they went.
Liam Coen is about as hot of a coordinator name that we've seen the past 5+ years not named Ben Johnson.
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But you acting like Moore isn’t a good candidate is laughable. He’s widely respected around the league
He's been interviewing for HC jobs for years and was never close to being hired, then goes to PHI, doesn't really do anything special there, and now he's a top candidate?
Look, he may work out, as these things are like picking QBs, but he's not some top candidate. He's a known guy who has interviewed a million times and never was really considered anywhere.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:48 am to WicKed WayZ
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He’s 73 fricking years old.
Yeah, and? Did you not read the post?
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he'd be perfect in our Culley role
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He could die in his Raiders office chair tomorrow
Mike McCarthy is a bigger ticking time bomb, FWIW
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:54 am to WicKed WayZ
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But posting some shite from Jacob Eckberg is cringe as frick the dude has no sources and people have called him out for lying before.
The Ringer has us last
TSN has us 2nd to lsat
NBC has us worst
I can look up PFF and t'Athletic after my shower
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