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re: Vrabel fired

Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:33 pm to
Defensive minded head coaches aren't going to win in this NFL Era. Outside of the few established ones remaining, they've failed over and over.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11403 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:42 pm to
DeMeco Ryans had an impressive first year…

Dennis Allen’s problem isn’t that he’s a defensive coach. His problem is that he’s a moron.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36330 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:53 pm to
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Defensive minded head coaches aren't going to win in this NFL Era. Outside of the few established ones remaining, they've failed over and over.


I wish people would stop repeating this meme. Vrable did a good job until this year. Demeco Ryan is probably your coach of the year. Sean McDermott just won his division. Antonio Pierce did a good job as interim head coach. Dan Campbell was a freaking TEs coach.

Plenty of offensive coaches have failed too. Doug Pederson was knocked out of the playoffs by a defensive coach. Matt Nagy sucked. Art Smith and Frank Reich were fired this year.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22250 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:57 pm to
Damn dude, that sarcasm should have been obvious, especially with the laughing emoticon in my post. But why don't you go ahead and show us where DA touched you

Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74480 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 1:07 pm to
You can be a defensive coach you just have to have the players’ respect as a leader and delegate what you don’t know

As for Vrabel, there was an obvious rift between him and the personnel dept. This seems almost mutual
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15203 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 1:07 pm to
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They traded their best offensive player. Did vrabel or the GM make the call to trade aj brown? The titans were 23-10 the previous 2 seasons before the AJ trade; they've gone 13-21 post trade


It’s been well documented the gm made that trade and Vrabel was pissed it happened. Probably what muddied the waters with him there and started the slide.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Them
Viewing the lake
Member since Nov 2008
11406 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 1:12 pm to
SMASH THE HIRE BUTTON
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2601 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 1:13 pm to
I take him. I would float a 13 mil per year to Michigan HC.
Posted by Doug_H
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2013
2769 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 1:17 pm to
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In case anyone is wondering. Vrabels career record is 54-45. DAs is 24-46

Are you in favor of firing Allen to hire Vrabel?
In case you're wondering the last 2 seasons with Allen as Saints head coach he is 16-18 and Vrabel is 13-21. Both missed playoffs each season

I'm not even arguing to keep Allen really, just giving context. People on this thread say Vrabel with a competent OC would be great. What if Allen had one? Both were head coaches the last 2 seasons and had the "alpha" power to replace subpar OCs but didn't. Question is will Allen do that now, answer is he damn well should
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 1:19 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 1:32 pm to
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Damn dude, that sarcasm should have been obvious


sorry about that

with all the idiots on here saying all manner of stupid shite, it was an auto reaction to reply to the next silly thing i saw

everyone is just so depressed at how bad things are and there wont be any significant changes coming out of the FO

EDIT - the talk is already starting about how they wont make any coaching changes until after SB so all coaches are available, and we all know thats just BS to stall and do nothing
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 5:09 pm
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
33884 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:48 pm to
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I wish people would stop repeating this meme. Vrable did a good job until this year. Demeco Ryan is probably your coach of the year. 

Stafanski is winning COTY and neither of those AFC coaches won shite so far in their careers. Winning the AFC South isn't saying much.

Take away Belichick, and just look at the most recent SB Winning head coaches. It's obvious
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 10:51 pm
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