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re: Vilma hearing updates...JUDGE DID NOT RULE TODAY
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:20 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:20 am to Chad504boy
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Paul Murphy ?@PMurphyWWL Suspension was neither transparent or fair. But she doesn't know that she do before his August 30 hearing before NFL arbitrator.
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Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:22 am to tgrbaitn08
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Gabe Feldman@SportsLawGuySumming up first 15 mins- Judge suggests NFL process was unfair,punishment was excessive, and commish may not have juris. But, plyrs...
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:22 am to otisLA85
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Ginsberg: What Goodell was obligated to do was be neutral or appoint a surrogate arbitrator in his place. He didn't HAVE to be arbitrator
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Ginsberg down and Kessler is up for questions
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:23 am to Putty
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it looks like she's setting up for "I really want to help you but my hands are tied."
I've got my fingers crossed but this is how I'm reading it as well.
And thanks for the PBP, Otis. Greatly appreciated.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:24 am to otisLA85
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@SportsLawGuy: May need to exhaust internal appeal of Burbank ruling. &, judge suggests that cartoffs are bounties. So,mostly good for plyrs, but bag mixed
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NFLPA attorney says Berrigan fully empowered to rule in Vilma's favor
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:25 am to otisLA85
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@TraversMackel Says league argument that she cant intervene is "completely false"
This post was edited on 8/10/12 at 9:26 am
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:26 am to otisLA85
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?@StephStradley A Fed judge thinks "bounty" discipline a joke. Legal posturing aside, Goodell in interest of game should reconsider his discipline
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:26 am to otisLA85
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NFL's favorite opposing counsel, Jeff Kessler, arguing why judge has power to overturn RG decision. Fair to say that he is "thundering away"
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Kessler is up. Said he is devoting his oral argument to show Berrigan she does have power to rule, despite what NFL says
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Kessler impressed at the last hearing and he's driving home points here again about Berrigan's power, the place he probably needs to hit
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:27 am to otisLA85
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Kessler impressed at the last hearing and he's driving home points here again about Berrigan's power, the place he probably needs to hit
Agreed...he knows he needs to show her that she is allowed to do what she says she wants to do.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:28 am to otisLA85
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Kessler: "You are not a potted plant, your honor. You are not powerless."
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:29 am to Putty
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@TraversMackel NFLPA lawyer fired up. Says judge is not "a powerless plant or innocent bystander." Telling her she can overrule RG
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John DeShazier@JohnDeShazierJudge stops Kessler, again stresses she may not be able to do anything until hearing on the 30th
damn
This post was edited on 8/10/12 at 9:30 am
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:30 am to otisLA85
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Judge stops Kessler, again stresses she may not be able to do anything until hearing on the 30th
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Judge again says that she seems to believe that she can't rule until appeal of Burbank ruling on 30th. Kessler trying to convince otherwise
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:32 am to tgrbaitn08
I think she'll punt until the Aug 30th Arbitration hearing. I think she's sending a message in her public statements that they should be VERY careful with the arbitration hearing...
And that she will leave herself open to revisit this if they aren't.
And that she will leave herself open to revisit this if they aren't.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:32 am to otisLA85
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Kessler: We don't want to set aside Burbank's ruling. We want to set aside Goodell's affirmation. He forced issue by ruling before...
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.. Appeals board could rule on whether he had power. Therefore, he drove us to court by not waiting on appeals board and remedies exhausted
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@JohnDeShazier: Give Kessler this much: The man is full of passion.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:33 am to otisLA85
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Albert Breer ?@AlbertBreer Important to remember: Vilma getting the injunction would mean Berrigan taking the case, leads to what NFL really wants to avoid: Discovery.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:34 am to otisLA85
wait so might have to wait more?? wow this is getting ridiculous
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:34 am to otisLA85
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Kessler: "You don't have to wait for the appeals panel because Mr. Goodell did not wait for the appeals panel."
This. I like.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:36 am to otisLA85
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The appeals board on Aug. 30 is an appeal on Burbanks btw. Kessler is acknowledging that is a step that remains, but doesn't deal w/ Goodell
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That's key argument.Kessler says judge doesn't have to wait for Burbank appeal because judge can decide issue on her own. No deference req'd
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Burbanks ruled that Goodell had authority over players. Appeals panel will review that on 30th
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Kessler stresses again and again that Berrigan doesn't have to wait for appeal to take place before she rules
^ He's stressing this HARD!
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:36 am to otisLA85
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Kessler: "You don't have to wait for the appeals panel because Mr. Goodell did not wait for the appeals panel."
Is this Boom worthy?
Posted on 8/10/12 at 9:39 am to jembeurt
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Is this Boom worthy?
i would say so.. nice job there
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