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re: Trade Downers: What's Your Choice?

Posted on 4/18/13 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by jralspanky
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 1:17 pm to
Cincy offers #21 & #53 (2nd Rd)
Posted by 99DSTJ
K-Town
Member since Jun 2009
795 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 1:19 pm to
I get that but the last time I put it up a bunch of guys said no way they would give up that many picks on looking at quantity not values.

In your scenario I would have to go with Pitt.

17. Mingo/Jones
75. Blidi-Wreh Wilson CB, Connecticut
79. Brandon Williams DT, Missouri Southern
109. Chris Faulk OT, LSU
144. Josh Boyce WR, TCU
183. Nick Kasa TE, Colorado
186. Robert Lester S, Alabama / Lawrence Okoye Discus, Great Britain

Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50447 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Jarvis Jones, Mingo, & Tavon Austin are available.


I think St. Louis wants Austin, and we could probably squeeze a third out of them to move down one spot if talks with other teams heat up. I'm not a Mingo fan, so I'd do that and draft Jones, or take the Denver offer. The Cards offer would be MIGHTY tempting, though. Assuming they split games against teams that aren't much better than them, they'll go 1-5 in their own division (split with St. Louis), 1-3 vs the NFCS (split Carolina/TB), 1-3 vs. the AFCS (split Tenn/Jax), and split Detroit/Philly. 4 wins would put us in:


territory. Plus they have some highly regarded QB's coming out that we could draft to groom under Brees or get a shitload of picks for. I don't think the Cards would make that offer, though.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 1:57 pm to
Either Denver, Minn or San Fran.

Could get a solid S(Cyprien, Elam, Reid) and Rush guy like Collins or Lemonier there.

This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 2:12 pm
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23661 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:10 pm to
Clearly, these two are great deals...

quote:

Minnesota offers #25, #52 (2nd Rd), & #120 (4th Rd)

Denver offers #28, #58 (2nd Rd), #90 (3rd Rd), & #125 (4th Rd)



So, either.


I'd also like to see Ivory + 5th to Jets for 3rd. That would be a nice haul.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 2:11 pm
Posted by KG5989
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:15 pm to
Believe it or not the Arizona offer intrigues me. the 38th pick and next years 1st rounder... interesting. That 2014 pick will most likely be at the least a top 10 pick. 2 1st rounders for 2014. And there is a man named Jadevon Clowney out there. Very interestinggggggg.

With the 38th pick we could get Collins, Lemonier or a legit S.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 2:17 pm
Posted by saturday
Pronoun (Baw)
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 3:58 pm to
I like all of them. But I really want us to trade down so I'm good on almost any trade down scenario
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
34628 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

And there is a man named Jadevon Clowney out there. Very interestinggggggg.

we don't play 4-3 anymore
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Jarvis Jones, Mingo, & Tavon Austin are available

No way, unless we're offered a gold mine.

This is the only one i would even remotely consider.
quote:

Denver offers #28, #58 (2nd Rd), #90 (3rd Rd), & #125 (4th Rd)
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72178 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

And there is a man named Jadevon Clowney out there. Very interestinggggggg.

we don't play 4-3 anymore



Clowney is 6-6 250-260 something lbs depending on where you look.. and fast as hell. I'm sure he'd be able to make the adjustment. I'd think of him like a T-suggs type OLB.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 4:45 pm
Posted by SSHellfighter
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
836 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

I would take San Fran! 31 Kevin Minter and at 34 Jamie Collins.


HFS! Production!

quote:

big appeal for Pitt or Dallas would be thinking you could pick up the extra selections and still get Jones or Mingo 2-3 spots later.


Small gamble and huge payoff.


So many options...
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36237 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Clowney is 6-6 250-260 something lbs depending on where you look.. and fast as hell. I'm sure he'd be able to make the adjustment. I'd think of him like a T-suggs type OLB.


Yeah, he's pretty much the better version of Mario Williams.
Posted by SSHellfighter
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
836 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

And there is a man named Jadevon Clowney out there. Very interestinggggggg.

we don't play 4-3 anymore


Who cares what we play? It's Clowney dude!
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16376 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

we don't play 4-3 anymore


HAHAHAhA. So you wouldnt take Clowney just because were a 3-4 team?? Laughable.

He could play 3-4 DE or OLB. 6'6 270 and runs a 4.5. Dude could play any defensive position on the field. Doesnt matter the system. Put him on the field and watch him wreck havoc.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 5:06 pm
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
5511 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 5:04 pm to
FRISCO IS BY FAR THE BEST THEN....
DENVER
MINNY
ZONA
DALLAS
CINCY
PITT....IMHO
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
19308 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 5:21 pm to
take that Arizona 2014 first round pick and hope it's a high one
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 5:22 pm to
Carson Palmer and Larry fitz makes it a slam dunk that it won't be a top 10 pick
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32345 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Jarvis Jones, Mingo, & Tavon Austin are available

Pittsburgh offers #17, #79 (3rd Rd), & #186 (6th Rd)

Dallas offers #18 & #80 (3rd Rd), & #151 (5th Rd)

Cincy offers #21 & #53 (2nd Rd)

Minnesota offers #25, #52 (2nd Rd), & #120 (4th Rd)

Denver offers #28, #58 (2nd Rd), #90 (3rd Rd), & #125 (4th Rd)

San Francisco offers #31 & #34 (2nd Rd)

Arizona offers #38 (2nd Rd) & 2014 1st Rd pick


Pittsburg is appealing. Why?
#17 pick for #15 pick with jones, mingo, and tavon on board
#15 will be mingo/jones to pittsburg
#16 will be tavon for rams
#17 will be mingo/jones for us, we pick up a 3rd and a 6th. That'd be REALLY nice

Dallas offer is similarly appealing. Why?
#15 will be one of the guards, they're pretty loaded on pass rushers.
#16 will be tavon for rams again
#17 will be mingo/jones for pitts
#18 will be mingo/jones for us.

Cindy/minnesota/denver/sanfran trade would be good for depth since the later 1st we can pick up olgetree or minter (he's still a first grade right?), and we can pick up a LT in the 2nd, but we lose any chance at a "proven" rushing OLB in mingo/jones which I believe we can find in one of those two.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 5:30 pm
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:36 am to
I'm glad many could see the opportunity if both Jones AND Mingo were on the board. You can turn it into another whole debate with this...

Say only Mingo OR Jones was available at #15. Do you take the player then or accept any of the same trades?

For me, I'd be disappointed by a trade out with only Jones left. If it was a trade down leaving Mingo, I wouldn't be disappointed as long as good trade value was obtained and solid picks were made from it.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 11:38 am to
The mingo talk is confusing. There is literally no way he gets past 10
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