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re: Toby Gerhart....

Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:05 am to
Posted by charlieg14
Member since Mar 2006
3076 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:05 am to
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i think that we should get another offensive weapon for Brees to play with


How about Jordan Shipley, the next Wes Welker.
Posted by Vood
Member since Dec 2007
8551 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:08 am to
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How about Jordan Shipley


THIS. I was thinking the same thing. This go is so underrated its crazy.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:12 am to
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It has nothing to do with LSU. Horrible may be stretching it but he is vastly overrated. Youre just blinded by his physical statue, instead of his production and play on the field. You were probably also a fan of Tebucky Jones.


Anymore than people were with Laron when he came out? Mays is just as physically imposing and has been just as good a college safety. He'll also be just as good if not better than Laron in the NFL.

Stud
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288592 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:57 am to
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I think Gerhart would translate into a good receiving/rushing fullback



this kid IS NOT a FB. I dont know what game yall are watchinging.
Posted by Cheetah Flex
Big Island, Hawaii
Member since May 2008
10578 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

ooks good in college kinda like jacob hester, doesn't transfer to the pros



Posted by LSU0407
Avon, CO
Member since Sep 2009
330 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:39 pm to
I'm saying use him as a short yardage runner from the FB position. Also, throw it to him from the FB position.
Use him like a hester, this boy can line up at both positions

Toby Gerhart 6' 1" 235 lbs

40 time 4.48
This post was edited on 11/29/09 at 12:44 pm
Posted by saintsmissile
Member since Nov 2009
734 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 1:39 pm to
He's a running back. Hester NEVER truly was used as only an rb. This kid has been only that since arriving at Stanford. You are mistaken.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 2:06 pm to
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quote:
How about Jordan Shipley

THIS. I was thinking the same thing. This go is so underrated its crazy.


If we draft a WR early or any non-offensive line offensive player then Payton and Loomis should be fired.
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19072 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 2:24 pm to


------"He has deceptive speed (4.55), but can't consistently turn the corner. Gerhart also does not have a second gear, and has limited experience pass blocking. His route running is inconsistent, at best and he has a poor feel for reading coverage. Gerhart is a player without a position; he is not fast enough to be a feature back and not big enough to be a fullback.

Gerhart is a good, overall prospect with limited upside. His lack of explosiveness will most likely confine him to an H-back type of role in the NFL."---------------
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288592 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 2:32 pm to
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Gerhart is a player without a position; he is not fast enough to be a feature back and not big enough to be a fullback.


thats a joke

and more than likely written before the season

4.55 is plenty fast enough.
Posted by saintsmissile
Member since Nov 2009
734 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 4:35 pm to
Why don't you post B.Jacobs pre draft bio as well as M.Turner. While your at it, go dig up M.Colston's, Mike Bell's, Pierre Thomas' and Lance Moore's as well. I don't need to go on do I?
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 4:42 pm to
Look, I like Kunta Kinte as much as the next guy, but I don't think that he'll be around when we pick in the 32nd slot in the second round, and we don't need to spend a first round pick on a running back.

Heck, I'm not even sure that we even HAVE a second round pick next year...
Posted by saintsmissile
Member since Nov 2009
734 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 6:01 pm to
Help me, Kunte what? What does the character from Roots have to do with a white rb from Stanford?
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72531 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 6:18 pm to
M.Colston:

POSITIVES: King-sized wideout whose game significantly progressed last year. Offers the quarterback a big target, gets vertical and out-jumps opponents for the pass. Nicely adjusts to the throw and has reliable hands. Comes back to the ball, makes the reception in stride and looks the pass in. Has a burst of acceleration and displays speed in the open field.

NEGATIVES: Slows into breaks running routes. Must display better awareness, get past the sticks on third down and consistently catch the ball before he runs up field.

ANALYSIS
: A prospect with outstanding size/speed numbers, Colston has the ability to be a No. 2 receiver in the NFL once he gets adjusted to the speed of the game. An outstanding red-zone target who also flourishes on third-down situations.

PROJECTION: Undrafted Free Agent



Mike Bell:


POSITIVES: Hard-running interior back who picks up the tough yards. Sees the field, consistently finds the running lanes and runs with an aggressive style. Plays with outstanding balance and body control. Slides off defenders or drives up the field on contact. Flashes a burst of speed through the hole. Solid pass receiver out of the backfield.

NEGATIVES
: Must pick up the intensity blocking. Does not beat defenders around the corner. Though sized well does not present himself as a heavy-duty back on the inside.

ANALYSIS: Consistent in college, Bell offers potential as a rotational/third back in the NFL.

PROJECTION: Mid Fourth Round

Lance Moore:

POSITIVES: Ultra-productive receiver also impacts the game as a return specialist. Slippery ball handler who displays top eye/hand coordination, timing, and the ability to adjust running full speed. Consistently finds the open spot in the defense, comes back to the ball and consistently extends to make the reception away from his frame. Boxes out opponents for the catch and adjusts to the errant throw. Displays excellent first step quickness running after the reception or returning punts.

NEGATIVES: Undersized, has difficulty getting off jams at the line of scrimmage or making the tough reception battling bigger opponents. Lacks the flat-out speed to beat opponents downfield. Suffered a shoulder injury late in the year and not able to workout at the combine.

ANALYSIS: A potential fifth receiver at the next level who can be used in the slot or on third-down situations, Moore's greatest value in the NFL could be as a return specialist. Needs to display the savvy he continually showed in college and could be tough to keep off a roster come September.

PROJECTION: Undrafted Free Agent

Thomas Morstead
:

POSITIVES: Nice sized athlete who flashes the ability to flip the field on punts or hit field goals from long-distance. Effectively handles the snap, has the ball explode off his foot and kicks moon-shots that seem to hang in the air. Allows coverage teams to get down the field and make plays, or forces opponents into calling a fair catch because of the hang time created. Effectively drops his punts inside the 10 yard line and displays the ability to directional kick. Accurate intermediate range field goal kicker.

NEGATIVES: Displays a lot of inconsistency in his game. Not a distance punter. Struggles when he must immediately get the ball off his foot.

ANALYSIS: Morstead is a terrific athlete with the size and leg strength to start at the next level. He needs to improve the details of his game and be more consistent, yet he will be effective for a franchise that patiently develops his game.

PROJECTION: Seventh Round/Free Agent

Carl Nicks:

POSITIVES: Big, athletic tackle with a large degree of upside potential. Strong at the point, anchors in pass protection, and easily controls defenders. Keeps his feet moving, displays the ability to slide laterally, and blocks with good pad level. Jolts opponents with good hand-punch and works to finish blocks. Better-than-average agility and can adjust to knock pass-rushers from their angle of attack.

NEGATIVES: Lacks balance, haphazard in his movements, and on the ground too much.

ANALYSIS: Nicks is a well-sized blocker with intriguing athleticism. He offers a good amount of upside and could start in the NFL if he improves the details of his game.

PROJECTION: Middle Second Round

Jahri Evans:

POSITIVES: Powerful college blocker who projects to guard in the NFL. Plays with good pad level, anchors at the point or drives defenders from the action. Keeps his feet moving throughout the action, can slide in space and jolts defenders with good hand punch. Aggressive and opens big holes for the running game.

NEGATIVES: Lacks playing balance and is constantly on the ground. Seems overweight and marginally conditioned. Not effective off the line of scrimmage.

ANALYSIS: Possessing outstanding size and playing strength, Evans is a terrific developmental prospect. Needs to take part in an NFL weight training program and refine the details of his game, but could be starting by his second season in the league.

PROJECTION: Early Seventh Round
This post was edited on 11/29/09 at 6:33 pm
Posted by saintsmissile
Member since Nov 2009
734 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 6:30 pm to
Thanks, proves my point that draft bios are not always what they appear. Many had Colston as a TE prospect.
Posted by msukb79
South Mississippi
Member since May 2009
10112 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 8:03 pm to
Gerhart is a BEAST that is all.

If you dont think he can play in the NFL you should watching his highlight reel vs Stanford and Oregon.
Posted by TexasSinger
Front Row
Member since Feb 2006
4519 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 9:52 pm to
There are some extremely potent offensive players in this draft. Spiller and Shipley are two who would thrive in Saints O. Shipley is also a monster in the return game. Spiller could be a cheaper Bush down the road.
Posted by cosmicdingo
Springhill, La.
Member since Mar 2006
2173 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:28 pm to
He's like the second coming of John Riggins.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112644 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 1:22 am to
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looks good in college kinda like jacob hester


I love when people compare him to Hester, it's funny every time, LOL.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33103 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 1:30 am to
He was a TE in our fantasy league his first year. Someone cleaned up big time that year.
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