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re: Time to Trade Brees
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:53 am to goatmilker
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:53 am to goatmilker
Two questions:
1) Who would want what appears to be an injured 36 year old quarterback?
2) What would we get for him? A #1? I seriously doubt it.
1) Who would want what appears to be an injured 36 year old quarterback?
2) What would we get for him? A #1? I seriously doubt it.
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:06 am to MadMaxwell
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Wrong. This would require Brees to agree to an extension or restructure. Mr. NFLPA isn't about to take a pay cut when he could just get a new deal after this one expires.
Lol @ you. An incentive based restructure can be agreed upon as to where Brees still earns his money but is still cap friendly to any suitor. Brees isn't going anywhere but you are talking out of your arse here. Brees has already openly discussed being willing to sign an extention or restructure with the Saints but he says the FO office hasn't approached him or Condon to do so yet.
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The 35-year-old quarterback's contract takes up $18.4 million in cap space next season before ballooning to $26.4 million and $27.4 million in 2014 and 2015. His team enters the offseason at least $12 million over the projected salary cap, according to the The Times-Picayune.
The quarterback said Monday he is open to restructuring his contract.
"Whatever I can do to help this team, if they want to come to me and extend me even further, that'd be great," Brees said.
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"Listen, I get compensated very well. I don't take that for granted for one second," Brees said. "But I play this game because I love this game, I love this locker room and I love the opportunity to win a championship."
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:00 pm to bearhc
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bearhc
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Time to Trade Brees
frick you.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:06 pm to BigBrod81
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Lol @ you. An incentive based restructure can be agreed upon as to where Brees still earns his money but is still cap friendly to any suitor. Brees isn't going anywhere but you are talking out of your arse here. Brees has already openly discussed being willing to sign an extention or restructure with the Saints but he says the FO office hasn't approached him or Condon to do so yet.
And you post a link to a story from a year and a half ago when he DIDN'T restructure and left the Saints pinned against the cap?! There's no way you're actually this fricking stupid.
Who cares what he said? He's a politician as much as a QB. He had no intent of restructuring, if he did the Saints would've jumped at it.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:10 pm to MadMaxwell
quote:Fwiw, you may want to do some research.
And you post a link to a story from a year and a half ago when he DIDN'T restructure and left the Saints pinned against the cap?! There's no way you're actually this fricking stupid
The Saints never asked him to restructure. It was also well discussed a lot, but it wouldn't benefit the Saints as much for him to restructure last season as it would in the future.
quote:No
He's a politician as much as a QB. He had no intent of restructuring, if he did the Saints would've jumped at it.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:49 pm to shel311
quote:I'd advise you to do the same. I'd also advise you to look up what the term "public relations" means.
Fwiw, you may want to do some research.
If the Saints didn't ask for a restructure, it's because they knew they wouldn't get it. Condon clients don't take cuts or restructure often.
quote:Um. Yes?
No
See? I can debate like a 6 year old as well.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 7:38 pm to blueboxer1119
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What? So you're saying Luck is better than Rodgers? Brady? Brees? Big Ben? Manning? I think not.
You are so short-sighted. No one is saying that. No one would trade Watt for a player on the wrong side of 30. Luck is under 30.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:03 pm to MadMaxwell
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I'd advise you to do the same. I'd also advise you to look up what the term "public relations" means.
If the Saints didn't ask for a restructure, it's because they knew they wouldn't get it. Condon clients don't take cuts or restructure often.
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The Broncos submitted the contract with revised language to the NFL on Thursday.
Manning's salary and salary cap numbers do not change.
When Manning was on the roster at the start of the 2013 league year in March, his $20 million salaries in the upcoming season and 2014 became guaranteed, though 2014 could be voided should Manning injure his neck in 2013.
With the revised contract language, the Broncos have insurance protection in case of any major injury that would prevent Manning from playing.
"It has no effect on the financial aspects of Peyton's contract, and it was expected once the guarantee came into play," said Manning's agent Tom Condon. "They'd certainly want to protect themselves in case of injury."
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While that all is probably true, a recent restructuring of Bradford's contract along with the original terms would make it easier for the team to move on from Bradford if he doesn't perform at a high level for the next two seasons.
Remember the constant mentions of the $50 million guaranteed in Bradford's six-year, $78 million contract? Well, the restructuring has removed $6 million of those absolute guarantees, including a total of $6.41 million from the final two years of his deal. However, that money accelerated into his 2013 salary when the team exercised an option bonus in 2011.
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They would, however, still be on the hook for $8 million in salary in 2013, which is guaranteed for skill and injury. His total salary next year is $9 million. It does make you wonder why the skill guarantee was removed this year. It could simply be a concession by agent Tom Condon to receive the money in advance when he knows Bradford won't be released.
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Who cares what he said? He's a politician as much as a QB. He had no intent of restructuring, if he did the Saints would've jumped at it.
Oh you mean like they rushed out to resign him after the 2011 season when he was set to become a free agent?
Herp a frickin derp
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:19 pm to BigBrod81
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Bradford's six-year, $78 million contract?
And people are complaining about Drew's contract?
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:15 pm to 3deadtrolls
It was time to trade Brees when he wanted all that money!Could have loaded up then!Now you won't get nothing for him
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:05 pm to BigBrod81
quote:Oh wow. 2 examples. One of which was coming off a massive injury.
Herp a frickin derp
Totally applicable. You know, you're supposed to ask your parents permission before getting online.
quote:Wtf are you talking about? When the negotiations came around to make him the highest paid player in the league? This isn't even close to the same situation. And fyi, the Saints pushed Brees to get to the table early, he played the long con (which worked for him), and it forced the Saints to burn the franchise tag on him and cost them Carl Nicks. You really think they didn't push to resign him before that?
Oh you mean like they rushed out to resign him after the 2011 season when he was set to become a free agent?
No way you're this stupid. Really. Good troll baw.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:45 pm to MadMaxwell
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And fyi, the Saints pushed Brees to get to the table early, he played the long con (which worked for him
Why would Brees want to play the long con? Players tend to want that long term security, especially when that 2006 contract wasn't lucrative
The saints admitted to wanting to wait after the super bowl and into the 2010 season, and they ended up losing their leverage with his 2011 season
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wow. 2 examples. One of which was coming off a massive injury. Totally applicable.
It just went directly against what you said. And 2 nfl starting QBs is a pretty substantial sample. He has 8-9 starting QBs according to wiki
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If the Saints didn't ask for a restructure, it's because they knew they wouldn't get it. Condon clients don't take cuts or restructure often.
Actually, just looked it up. Eli Manning restructured in 2012. Stafford restructured in 2012. Alex Smith in 2009. Tony Romo this year. So that is at least 6 of his 8 starting QBs that have restructured in their careers. The other QB is Matt Ryan who just singed his extension and hasn't really had the opportunity to restructure yet (I left out Fitzmagic as he's a starting QB by injury).
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No way you're this stupid. Really. Good troll baw.
Great theory. You were right on
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:52 am to TigerBait1127
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Actually, just looked it up. Eli Manning restructured in 2012. Stafford restructured in 2012. Alex Smith in 2009. Tony Romo this year. So that is at least 6 of his 8 starting QBs that have restructured in their careers.
Head shot
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:38 am to MadMaxwell
quote:Or is it because they knew it would be more beneficial to restructure 1 season later? I'm guessing you didn't consider that angle? Hence, the research thing I mentioned...
If the Saints didn't ask for a restructure, it's because they knew they wouldn't get it
quote:Well, I think the poster above summed that one up for me.
Condon clients don't take cuts or restructure often
This thread isn't going well for you.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:56 am to KindaRaw
quote:Am I still on Earth? Is this a dream land? How many fingers is Jason Pierre Paul holding up?
If we could somehow get Watt out of Houston that would be crazy
Posted on 9/22/15 at 9:25 am to bearhc
36 year old QB with a huge price tag and declining arm strength what is he worth?
Posted on 9/22/15 at 10:18 am to bearhc
So what do you think we'll get for a 36 y/o QB with a reconstructed throwing shoulder and a bruised rotator cuff????
Posted on 9/22/15 at 10:24 am to DHS1997
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36 year old QB with a huge price tag and declining arm strength what is he worth?
I guarantee a team like the Texans would throw some choice draft picks our way for Brees for a year or two. Won't be a 1st, but could see a 2nd and 3rd, and a conditional 2nd.
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