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re: The Superdome is the fifth oldest stadium in the NFL........
Posted on 7/10/08 at 4:18 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 7/10/08 at 4:18 pm to Lester Earl
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the waiting list came after they went to the NFC champ game, not when the tickets were lowered.
Wrong, the waiting list happened when they came back after Katrina.
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Posted on 7/10/08 at 4:21 pm to LSUfan4444
part of the reason we get the super bowls is the dome's location and you want to move shite out to laplace?
Posted on 7/10/08 at 4:35 pm to LSUbrees
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Wrong, the waiting list happened when they came back after Katrina.
dude i bought 6 new seasons tickets before the 2006 season...sometime in June or July of that year
the 2006 officially wasnt a sell out up until Sept of that year..sometime around hte mid to late part of the season.
that is why the next offseason they had 30K extra ticket requests
a waiting list wasnt a relevant unitl they started playing well.
Either way, the excitment going into the 2006 season wasnt because of the ticket prices, it was because we signed Brees, and drafted Reggie Bush, got a new coach, etc, etc, etc.
This post was edited on 7/10/08 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 7/10/08 at 5:01 pm to Lester Earl
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going into the Katrina season, i think they Saints were on a string of like 2 or 3 years of straght sellouts. At least about 20 games if i remember right. Was there a waiting list? No. But its not like there was an attendence problem.
29 consecutive ( LINK.
It ended in the 04 season. When average attendance dropped to just over 64K. LINK
Posted on 7/10/08 at 6:59 pm to Lester Earl
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dude i bought 6 new seasons tickets before the 2006 season...sometime in June or July of that year
This is correct. For a 4-month window, you could buy a pair of 2006 Saints season tickets for like $250, list JUST the Falcons game on eBay, and pay for almost the entire season with that one game. That's how I came to have so many Saints season tickets.
Posted on 7/10/08 at 7:34 pm to LSUfan4444
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NO east is basically empty but my personal preference would be to build something closertoards baton rouge (la place ex)
Sorry, but thats nuts. One road in and one road out. That would be fun !
Posted on 7/10/08 at 7:39 pm to LSUfan4444
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Posted on 7/10/08 at 8:17 pm to LSU77
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One road in and one road out. That would be fun !
what? i-10, i-55 and airline highway are all major highways or interstates running into that area
Posted on 7/10/08 at 8:23 pm to Lester Earl
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a waiting list wasnt a relevant unitl they started playing well.
the terrace (cheap seats) was completely sold out before the falcons game...the dome was completely sold out after the 06 season.
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Either way, the excitment going into the 2006 season wasnt because of the ticket prices, it was because we signed Brees, and drafted Reggie Bush, got a new coach, etc, etc, etc.
the excitement was a combination of alot of things no doubt. nobody is saying the fans in NO weren't excited or energized about the saints...just that the waiting list coincided with the ticket price drop....even when the saints had promising teams and promising season previously, they never sold out the terrace like they did after the price drop
This post was edited on 7/10/08 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 7/10/08 at 8:25 pm to THRILLHO
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i think they Saints were on a string of like 2 or 3 years of straght sellouts. At least about 20 games if i remember right. Was there a waiting list? No. But its not like there was an attendence problem.
the saints had that streak b/c they were bailed out NUMEROUS times by companies (entergy/FOX etc) stepping in at the last moment and gobbling up the tickets to prevent a tv blackout
the tickets were sold, but they were not always filled (like now) and they weren't sold to fans
Posted on 7/10/08 at 8:27 pm to BilJ
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part of the reason we get the super bowls is the dome's location and you want to move shite out to laplace?
yes, that was PART of the reason in the past, but it is quite obvious by the NFL awarding cities like dallas/glendale a super bowl that proximity is not longer such a great concern for the NFL
i know the complications between the state and the saints not having a long term deal are having an affect on the cities ability to host a super bowl, but proximity just isn't as important as it used to be...back when there were only a couple cities who could really handle a super bowl it gave NO an edge....now, just about everyone can handle one
if you build a new stadium and it has the ability for retractable roof or dome, you'll host super bowls. end of story
This post was edited on 7/10/08 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 7/10/08 at 11:38 pm to LSUfan4444
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.the dome was completely sold out after the 06 season.
It was sold out completely after the Katrina season in 05'.
But a waiting list wasnt relevant until they won in 06. It ballooned to nearly 30K people because they were winning mainly.
Posted on 7/10/08 at 11:42 pm to LSUfan4444
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.just that the waiting list coincided with the ticket price drop...
maybe 30%...70% was because they were winning
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even when the saints had promising teams and promising season previously, they never sold out the terrace like they did after the price drop
The Saints NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER had a season like they did in 06, coupled with the star power on the roster going into the next season. Ever. Ever ever ever.
throw in the Katrina factor and the prices mean little
This post was edited on 7/10/08 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 7/11/08 at 6:04 am to Lester Earl
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even when the saints had promising teams and promising season previously, they never sold out the terrace like they did after the price drop
The Saints NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER had a season like they did in 06, coupled with the star power on the roster going into the next season. Ever. Ever ever ever.
i think we are talking about two different things
i am talking about the terrace (cheap seats ) being sold out, which happened BEFORE the 06 season (possibly after the cleveland and green bay game but definitely before the atlanta monday night game)
i know the rest of the dome sold out after the winning really started, but the expensive seats aren't really part of my concern. hell, even with the price increase in 08, those sales are strong
i'm not saying you are wrong, because you aren't, i' just think we are both accurate in what we are saying
IMO, the sales of plaza and loge seats will always be strong (a) if the teams is winning or (b) there are enough people with deep enough pockets to purchase those seats. my fear is (b) has dwindled significantly and i think it is time to increase that target market potential.
as for the terrace, i think the sellout is primarily due to ticket prices and not necessarily winning due to the timing of when it sold out. now, would it sell out if the prices were raised to that of an average like the loge and plaza? i don't think so.
again, i hope i am wrong. i hope it would, BUT going on previous evidence (not selling out the terrace ever before-season wise), and shrinking economic status, i just don't see how it could be maintained without an influx of "potential" customers with higher income
ETA- i guess my point is this...if the entire loge and plaza had average NFL ticket prices, would it be sold out now? the answer is yes...it already is at prices i think are average or close to it.
if the terrace had average nfl ticket prices, would it be sold out....the answer is, i don't think so. i could be wrong (and no sure way tell), but i really don't think so. what happens when the excitement goes away and the winning stops?
This post was edited on 7/11/08 at 6:26 am
Posted on 7/11/08 at 6:25 am to LSUfan4444
and also, i do not think the saints need a new stadium ANYWHERE right now...my only point was that with the saints current state of affairs and the current situation in NO and jefferson, i do not agree that the current location is "perfect"
i think a location outside of the city would actually be better
i think a location outside of the city would actually be better
Posted on 7/11/08 at 8:12 am to LSUfan4444
hey dude, see you still at it, just wanted to point something out about the comment you made earlier about the new Cowboys stadium being built out in Arlington, part of the reason being, DFW airport is basically out in that area, so it makes it a lot more convenient then where it is was before. I thought about it and remembered that, just saying, carry on.
Posted on 7/11/08 at 9:08 am to tubucoco
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see you still at it
well of course i'm still at it. i don't like talking about 25 topics i have little interest in. i'd rather find one or two and just converse on those
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just wanted to point something out about the comment you made earlier about the new Cowboys stadium being built out in Arlington, part of the reason being, DFW airport is basically out in that area, so it makes it a lot more convenient then where it is was before
i agree...it is alot more convienent to the airport. and fwiw- laplace is probably closer to the NO international airport than what the super dome is
from the wal mart in laplace (just a point of reference) to the airport is 16.66 miles. from the airport to the superdome it is 14.18 miles...so i was wrong. by 2 miles
me Posted on 7/11/08 at 11:33 am to LSUfan4444
an easy way to tell was the suite sales...i think before that magical season, they had a little less than 3/4ths sold. The prices didnt change, but when they won, all of the suites were sold out for the 2007 season.
money really wasnt the problem, it was winning. That is just how i see it
money really wasnt the problem, it was winning. That is just how i see it
Posted on 7/11/08 at 4:21 pm to LSUfan4444
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the saints lose out on ALOT of regional support b/c of its location. i think theonly way they can achieve long term success is by becomingmore regional
You have any evidence of this besides your opinion?
Why would regional people from west of the city want to go to NO East? The regional people I know that come to games enjoy coming to the city that is part of the attraction. Driving 12.5 minutes less to be in NOEast is not an advantage for anyone besides the person that would own the land in NO East.
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