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re: The Superdome is the fifth oldest stadium in the NFL........

Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:19 pm to
Superdome is antiquated, needs to be replaced badly, that idea they had awhile back when I still lived there, about a state of the art retractable arena by the riverwalk would have been a stroke of genius, would have revitalized the whole area, but just like most shite in NO it went by the waistside.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57069 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:24 pm to
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needs to be replaced badly


why?

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that idea they had awhile back when I still lived there, about a state of the art retractable arena by the riverwalk would have been a stroke of genius




sounds great and looks great but in reality would do no real good to spend that much money to build a new stadium that would be worse on traffic 3 miles from the existing one

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it went by the waistside.


wayside...not waistside
Posted by Towelie
America's Wang
Member since Aug 2007
19265 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:33 pm to
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Superdome is antiquated, needs to be replaced badly


I'm guessing you haven't been in the Dome since they freshened it up.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:34 pm to
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why?
I just said it's antiquated.
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worse on traffic 3 miles from the existing one
maybe, But like I said it would have revitalized that whole area, and NO needs a shot in the arm bad, moving it out to La Place like you suggessted is a medias worst nightmare.
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wayside...not waistside
thanks for the correction, drinking too much
This post was edited on 7/9/08 at 12:35 pm
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:36 pm to
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I just said it's antiquated


explain...what is so out of date that a new stadium must be built"

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like I said it would have revitalized that whole area


possibly, but seems like your biting off your nose to spite your face...i just can't see more of an advantage to building a new stadium that close

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moving it out to La Place like you suggessted is a medias worst nightmare


why? la place is 45 minutes from the cbd....ever been to a cowboys game?
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:36 pm to
that's nice on the inside man, but I'm talking overall, outside, inside, etc.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57069 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:37 pm to
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I'm talking overall


like what? what needs to be replaced?
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:38 pm to
yeah I have been to a Cowboys game, AND THE MEDIA HATES IT, WAY TOO LONG A RIDE.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:39 pm to
the NFL wants most stadiums brought to modern specifications, amenities, for huge money purposes.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57069 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:41 pm to
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yeah I have been to a Cowboys game, AND THE MEDIA HATES IT, WAY TOO LONG A RIDE


it was such a bad location, they are building another stadium....this time in arlington

if you think la place is too far to ride for fans who live in NO, think about what it is like for people people who left to NO and have money to support the team who now live in Ms, Baton rouge, hammond, mandeville etc

sorry if i don't feel bad for the camera man from wdsu b/c he has to drive all the way downtown before agame

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57069 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:43 pm to
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the NFL wants most stadiums brought to modern specifications, amenities, for huge money purposes.


the superdome already has modern amenities...what exactly needs to be upgraded?

Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:47 pm to
outside media that comes into town is what I'm talking about, the love the fact that everything is in close proximity, makes everything convenient , no delays, no bogdowns.

Hell everybody that has something major going on in NO, conventions,corporate functions, brags about how everthing is right where they need it.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57069 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 12:51 pm to
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outside media that comes into town is what I'm talking about, the love the fact that everything is in close proximity, makes everything convenient , no delays, no bogdowns.


NO is VERY unique inits proximity along with indianpolis

there could easily be more than enough appropriate accomodations built in that area and is closer to the airport for teamsand media traveling

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Hell everybody that has something major going on in NO, conventions,corporate functions, brags about how everthing is right where they need it.


yes...and for convetions itis a HUGE bonus...but for a 1 day agme it isn't that important

there is no reason people cannot stay in NO and shuttle to/from games with transportation provided by the hotel, cabs or rent a car like in other cities

the super bowl rotation has changed so much..the days of NO getting that many super bowls are LONG OVER

la place is 20 minutes from kenner and 45 minutes to downtown NO (being generous) and and hour from BR
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50399 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 1:00 pm to
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putting the stadium in la place(accessible by i-55 and i-10 from 2 directions) makes it more accesible from people around the state (and region) but yet is still close enough to support people who wanted to visit BR or NO or traveled from either location for the game



There's a 30,000 person waiting list, and while the Saints going to the shitter could turn off bandwagoners, it would take a long time for that to happen. So you would move it from one of the best cities to have fun in on the planet to a town with absolutely nothing to do to make it easier for certain people who can't even go to games to go there.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 1:03 pm to
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..the days of NO getting that many super bowls are LONG OVER
that may be true, but if a new stadium had been built you never know,like I said I think it could have been a shot in the arm for the economy, the Superdome in its time was beautiful, but the design to me is in need of a facelift, oh well who gives a shite, it's politics in NOLA as always anyway.
This post was edited on 7/9/08 at 1:04 pm
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50399 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 1:05 pm to
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there is no reason people cannot stay in NO and shuttle to/from games with transportation provided by the hotel, cabs or rent a car like in other cities



Imagine how awesome it would have been when the Tigers won the NCG, the crowd spilling out of the stadium into... Laplace. Then the awesome 45 minute shuttle ride (probably over an hour given the situation) to the Quarter. Except not nearly as many people are in the Quarter because the game is, you know, in Laplace.

And while no town will dominate SB hosting like NO and Miami did in the past (with SB hosting as an incentive to built new stadiums), NO could very well still host SB's more often than any other city. I think the biggest issue has been, by far, the Saints lack of longterm contract with the state. The NFL doesn't want to schedule a SB in NO only to have the Saints playing elsewhere by the time it happens.
This post was edited on 7/9/08 at 1:07 pm
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57069 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 1:10 pm to
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There's a 30,000 person waiting list


b/c ticket prices are among cheapest tickets in the nfl

there has only been a waiting list since the ticket price decrease happened


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while the Saints going to the shitter could turn off bandwagoners, it would take a long time for that to happen


i would bet a ticket increase to get the saints in the middle of the pack with ticket prices would immeditaely hault that waiting list


the ticket sales went up before the 2006 season, not after it...littlehad to do with actually winning. actualy attendance may have, but not season ticket sales

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So you would move it from one of the best cities to have fun in on the planet to a town with absolutely nothing to do to make it easier for certain people who can't even go to games to go there.


yes

move the game out of the city to promote more regional supprt for the team and keep weekend festivities in the city for those who want to travel here and those who live here


Posted by Towelie
America's Wang
Member since Aug 2007
19265 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 1:10 pm to
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..the days of NO getting that many super bowls are LONG OVER


move the stadium to LaPlace and the days of getting ANY super bowl will be long over
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57069 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 1:14 pm to
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Imagine how awesome it would have been when the Tigers won the NCG, the crowd spilling out of the stadium into... Laplace. Then the awesome 45 minute shuttle ride (probably over an hour given the situation) to the Quarter. Except not nearly as many people are in the Quarter because the game is, you know, in Laplace


yes bowl games with no bourbon street within walking distance suck arse

sincerely,
pasadena and the rose bowl

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NO could very well still host SB's more often than any other city.


could? no. it isn't

and it is being proven every year location of stadium is no longer an important factor to the NFL

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I think the biggest issue has been, by far, the Saints lack of longterm contract with the state


the other big issue is the abundance of new stadiums being built in the nfl with agreements made with thenfl that if they build these new stadiums, they would be rewarded a super bowl
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57069 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 1:17 pm to
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move the stadium to LaPlace and the days of getting ANY super bowl will be long over


what about cowboys stadium? how can you possibly say that having a stadium 40 minutes away from bourbon street would eliminate NO from super bowl contention?

even if it did....the saints won't stay in La b/c the state gets a super bowl every 10 years...quite frankly, i could give a flippity f*ck if we ever got a super bowl. i want long term assurance the team remains in the state

i haven't heard ANYONE in this thread feel confident that this team can survive long term unless they find a way to promote LARGE amount of regional support
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