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re: The Latest on Medicine Cabinet Gate
Posted on 5/12/10 at 4:45 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
Posted on 5/12/10 at 4:45 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
You would think we would have smarter people on this thread.
Does anybody else stay in reality, or are we all just going to look at this in complete black and white cut and dry mode? I don't care if the DEA is looking into this, there's no shred of linkage proof that this is a criminal investigation yet. Can it become one? Of course. Until then, we've got people here assuming that it is.
Get out of here with that common sense. That shite isn't welcome in this thread.
Does anybody else stay in reality, or are we all just going to look at this in complete black and white cut and dry mode? I don't care if the DEA is looking into this, there's no shred of linkage proof that this is a criminal investigation yet. Can it become one? Of course. Until then, we've got people here assuming that it is.
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I think the truth is somewhere in the middle
Get out of here with that common sense. That shite isn't welcome in this thread.
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 4:51 pm to Sophandros
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If 2 million is his starting point, then we would have to believe that his salary was over 2 million per year, since he quit the team less than a year ago
All plaintiffs start high, it's a negotiating strategy, for settlement talks later. Plus lawyers just right in a large amount, rarely do they do the actual work involved in figure out the exact amount they should get.
Players and there agents never go to a team with what they think they will get first.
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Plus, you conveniently omit that he went to the Saints and demanded 2 million or he would sue. THAT is what I'm talking about.
People do this all the time. It's not really extortion as much as it is the legal process. Either settle out of court or lets go to court and do this.
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s now playing whistle-blower because he figures he can make some cash.
motivation of the messenger doesn't change the message he is delivering. IF what he is saying is true and that is the sticking point for me.
If Loomis directed him to get rid of possible evidence in a criminal investigation, then Loomis may have to face some legal consequences.
Posted on 5/12/10 at 4:56 pm to tigerguy121
Again, none of you have answered this:
WHY DID HE WAIT A YEAR AND GO THROUGH A CIVIL CASE, WHEN A GUY WITH 30 YEARS FBI EXPERIENCE HAS TO HAVE CONNECTIONS TO GET THIS THROUGH THE SYSTEM?
If dude's "conscience" caused him to quit, then why didn't he go to the authorities immediately? Why didn't he get this case on the front burner with his connections?
Something doesn't add up...
WHY DID HE WAIT A YEAR AND GO THROUGH A CIVIL CASE, WHEN A GUY WITH 30 YEARS FBI EXPERIENCE HAS TO HAVE CONNECTIONS TO GET THIS THROUGH THE SYSTEM?
If dude's "conscience" caused him to quit, then why didn't he go to the authorities immediately? Why didn't he get this case on the front burner with his connections?
Something doesn't add up...
Posted on 5/12/10 at 4:59 pm to ClientNumber9
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I would think the investigation of a potential felony drug cover up would concern everyone.
We are talking about approximately 130 vicodin tablets.......I'm not certain of the timeframe.
I for one DO NOT want my tax dollars going to investigate this heinous crime.
I am 100% certain that the DEA has more important things to be investigating, particularly since there are responsible parties that have investigated and taken steps to ensure that the actions do not continue.
GO AWAY with you "investigate a felony" bullshite.
Posted on 5/12/10 at 4:59 pm to tigerguy121
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motivation of the messenger doesn't change the message he is delivering.
Brother, I've been saying this all day.
Soph and a few others keeping seeking to discuss his motivations, but THAT DOESN'T MATTER. What DOES matter is what evidence he has.
Posted on 5/12/10 at 5:05 pm to Sophandros
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WHY DID HE WAIT A YEAR AND GO THROUGH A CIVIL CASE, WHEN A GUY WITH 30 YEARS FBI EXPERIENCE HAS TO HAVE CONNECTIONS TO GET THIS THROUGH THE SYSTEM?
I've already said it, but ok once again. There is no money in it for him to go and push a criminal investigation.
Also, are you just pretending to know the contacts he has? We have no clue what type of contacts he has. The FBI and DEA are 2 different agencies right? Who knows what type of contacts he has in the DEA, did he work for the DEA or the FBI?
Posted on 5/12/10 at 5:05 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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I for one DO NOT want my tax dollars going to investigate this heinous crime.
I never said I wanted this investigation or that the DEA doesn't have better things to do with our tax dollars.
I just stated that the an investigation of a potential felony drug cover up should concern people- simply because of the stakes involved should members of the FO be found guilty.
This post was edited on 5/12/10 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 5/12/10 at 5:05 pm to jdrumdog
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I don't care if the DEA is looking into this, there's no shred of linkage proof that this is a criminal investigation yet.
Posted on 5/12/10 at 5:06 pm to ClientNumber9
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I just stated that the an investigation of a potential felony drug cover up should concern people- simply because of the stakes involved should members of the FO be found guilty.
And apparently it does, judging by this thread...
Posted on 5/12/10 at 5:15 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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I for one DO NOT want my tax dollars going to investigate this heinous crime.
Well then, that's where we differ. I do. I want this investigated, like it already was, and is, and I want to know whether or not Loomis or any other Saints FO member directed Santini to destroy evidence that may have been valuable in a criminal investigation.
Winning a Super Bowl doesn't put you above the law. If I or any other normal person was responsible for hiding evidence from the DEA, we would be hit with a obstruction of justice charge faster than you can say "I plead the 5th"
If Loomis is innocent though, then all the better lets investigate it, find out this guy is full of it and get ready for next season.
Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:10 pm to ClientNumber9
I'm saying that if he had strong evidence, he would have dne something a year ago or immediately after he quit. Furthermore, if the evidence were strong, JPSO or the DEA would have done something a year ago. That he has resorted to a money grab and an attempt to have this case tried in the court of public opinion rather than in a real courthouse implies that his evidence is not strong.
Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:13 pm to Sophandros
With all the drug related crime facing New Orleans, I for one would be glad to know that time and effort is being directed at a case like this, wouldn't you?
Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:21 pm to Sophandros
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I'm saying that if he had strong evidence, he would have dne something a year ago or immediately after he quit
From what tape transcripts have been leaked, it sounds as if he have pretty hard evidence. A 30 year FBI vet, whether this is a cash grab or not, is going to have rock solid documented proof before making his move. I guess time will tell. Best case scenario: dude is full of shite, he's making all this up, and the Saints call his bluff.
Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:26 pm to Sophandros
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I'm saying that if he had strong evidence, he would have dne something a year ago or immediately after he quit.
Not necessarily, if there were negotiations of a settlement, putting together the case and evidence, numerous legitimate things could have delayed it.
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Furthermore, if the evidence were strong, JPSO or the DEA would have done something a year ago
Did they have and currently possess whatever evidence that Santini was allegedly told to get rid of?
Or did Santini keep it quiet from the Feds of Loomis' coverup to add more pressure to force an out of court settlement?
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implies that his evidence is not strong
Depends on what is on that video and recorded conversations.
This post was edited on 5/12/10 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:30 pm to EmperorGout
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With all the drug related crime facing New Orleans, I for one would be glad to know that time and effort is being directed at a case like this, wouldn't you?
You think the DEA is incapable of doing their job properly and investigating each case they are presented with?
I have full faith that the DEA can handle investigating this crime and any other that comes to their doorstep.
Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:56 pm to tigerguy121
this is probably a really stupid question but if he quit why should we pay lost wages wasn't that his decision?
Posted on 5/12/10 at 7:12 pm to tigerguy121
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I have full faith that the DEA can handle investigating this crime and any other that comes to their doorstep.
Posted on 5/12/10 at 7:24 pm to jdrumdog
Ahh well no wonder you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend to not know what a criminal investigation is. You think the DEA is just as likely to shite the bed and wrongly bring charges against the staff.
Posted on 5/12/10 at 7:45 pm to tigerguy121
okie dokie buddy.
You have yourself a good day there
Apparently you don't understand what's going on. We'll talk later on after this is all over lol.
Still cracks me up how worked up some people are over true justice and the morality beacon.
I'm sure the DEA is throwing some serious weight around with this criminal investigation, no?
You have yourself a good day there
Apparently you don't understand what's going on. We'll talk later on after this is all over lol.
Still cracks me up how worked up some people are over true justice and the morality beacon.
I'm sure the DEA is throwing some serious weight around with this criminal investigation, no?
This post was edited on 5/12/10 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 5/12/10 at 10:56 pm to tigerguy121
I finally got to read the entire article along with summations from nola.com.
Is it just me...or, does this guy REALLY not like Sean Payton? He seemed to be buddy buddy with Benson and Loomis, but apparently the supposed cover up with Payton was what drove him over the edge?
It's just weird. Willing to protect certain people involved, but not all.
Is it just me...or, does this guy REALLY not like Sean Payton? He seemed to be buddy buddy with Benson and Loomis, but apparently the supposed cover up with Payton was what drove him over the edge?
It's just weird. Willing to protect certain people involved, but not all.
This post was edited on 5/12/10 at 11:22 pm
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