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The coaching candidate pool this offseason is going to be very dearth
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:02 am
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:02 am
Let me start this post by saying I think and support the notion that DA needs to be fired. But I also know that before you fire a coach, you should examine the market to determine if there is/are candidates out there available who will be just as good or better as replacements. No competent organization fires a coach without having an idea as to who they would like to pursue as their next coach. And unfortunately for the Saints, there will be many head coach openings in the league this offseason and we will be at the bottom of most top candidates lists due to not having a QB and an aging roster. I think this is why DA stays another year. Believe it or not, we could fire DA and end up with an even worse coach. The candidates are slim pickings and why would Ben Johnson or someone of his caliber pick New Orleans over LA?
TL;DR version: we’re fricked because we can’t get just any coach we want and the market for new coaches sucks this year. We’re stuck with DA at least another year.
TL;DR version: we’re fricked because we can’t get just any coach we want and the market for new coaches sucks this year. We’re stuck with DA at least another year.
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:05 am to oncealurker
Competent organization??
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:08 am to oncealurker
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why would Ben Johnson or someone of his caliber pick New Orleans over LA?
Chargers have no fan base.
Owner is cheap and nobody wants to play for them (see Eli Manning).
Play in the same division as Kansas City and Denver, so not likely making playoffs anytime soon.
Herbert has a big arm, but isn’t a winner.
New Orleans is more attractive because we are exact opposite of all that and GM isn’t going anywhere, so you would have support of management.
This is a great job to have.
ETA, way less in income taxes.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 9:09 am
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:15 am to Suntiger
And Sean left because..? It’s not an overly attractive job to outsiders
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:19 am to oncealurker
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The coaching candidate pool this offseason is going to be very dearth
That is a horrible sentence.
Better choices
"There will be a dearth of coaching candidates this offseason" if dearth is a new word to you and you just want to use it in the sentence.
Or substitute the adjective diluted, slim, or sparse for the noun dearth.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 9:23 am
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:25 am to oncealurker
Saints should offer 13 mil a year to Michigan HC. He wins in playoffs. He knows how to coach.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:40 am to Proximo
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And Sean left because..? It’s not an overly attractive job to outsiders
He left because he had been here for 15 years and the job was stale and he needed a break and a new challenge. Similar to other guys like and Urban Meyer in NCAA or Parcells in the NFL.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:20 am to oncealurker
There really is only one option- Gruden
And it will be glorious
And it will be glorious
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 10:23 am
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:33 am to Suntiger
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job was stale and he needed a break and a new challenge
you really believe this linePosted on 12/14/23 at 10:47 am to SportsGuyNOLA
Because lets give more of a reason for Goodell to hate us and the NFL to screw us lol
Posted on 12/14/23 at 11:11 am to Suntiger
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and he needed a new QB.
I believe this was the main reason. I also believe Roger and the nfl had no love for him as a Saints HC and he knew it. And the break you speak of was only because he was under contract with the Saints and could not work anywhere else for three years. He also started the whole mess by looking into a HC job at Miami while employed by the Saints.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 11:40 am to oncealurker
I want belecheck for 5+ years. Build the roster back up. Promote from within. Fire loomis in the process.
Or let Bill become our GM. That's what I want.
Or let Bill become our GM. That's what I want.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 11:56 am to Suntiger
Saints HC job
Negatives:
1. Oldest roster (many of our best players will be retiring and/or are declining).
2. No long term WB
3. Salary cap restrictions
4. GM who is so aggressive in the draft that he loses most trades.
5. Winnable division but winning in playoffs will be hard bc teams are going to be more talented most of the time.
Positives:
1. Best young QB’s are in the AFC
2. Non-meddling owner
3. GM team that is above average in drafting but has notable whiffs due to over aggressive approach
4. Weak division
I guess it depends on what someone is looking for.
Negatives:
1. Oldest roster (many of our best players will be retiring and/or are declining).
2. No long term WB
3. Salary cap restrictions
4. GM who is so aggressive in the draft that he loses most trades.
5. Winnable division but winning in playoffs will be hard bc teams are going to be more talented most of the time.
Positives:
1. Best young QB’s are in the AFC
2. Non-meddling owner
3. GM team that is above average in drafting but has notable whiffs due to over aggressive approach
4. Weak division
I guess it depends on what someone is looking for.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:04 pm to A Smoke Break
Bill has been terrible as GM and drafting these last few years. Hard pass.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:31 pm to NewBeginnings
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WB should be QB
You seem to be a new poster so I was going to tell you that you can edit your posts. Below your post there should be an edit button. Click that and make your changes.
Or you can just do like you did and pad your post numbers!
Posted on 12/14/23 at 3:47 pm to Suntiger
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He left because he had been here for 15 years and the job was stale
sorry Sun, but that is not a complete reason - we all know he left, because Drew was retiring and he did not want to have to try and rebuild it back up.
is why he went to Denver - established QB, who has had success.
fact is, I thank Sean for what he did for us, but he fricking bailed when the going was going to get tough - and left us swingin in the wind
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:37 pm to oncealurker
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Believe it or not, we could fire DA and end up with an even worse coach.
It would be next to impossible for him to be worse historically speaking.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 11:27 pm to Proximo
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job was stale and he needed a break and a new challenge
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you really believe this line
Try looking up Bill Parcells head coaching timeline. Payton leans on Parcells for advice even to this day.
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But most of all, he keeps the pressure on himself – 14-hour days, six days a week. And on the seventh day he rests, a mere 12 hours.
Does he really need to work 14-hour days?
"Yes, sir. Maybe more. If you want to stay competitive, this is one of the most competitive businesses there is," he says. "It's my life. It's my blood. It's how I'm measured."
After that season, Parcells had it. He said his coaching fire had burned out, and he retired. But then, last year, at the age of 61, he came back, to spur the Dallas Cowboys to their first playoffs in four years. And nothing had changed.
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 11:15 am
Posted on 12/14/23 at 11:36 pm to Thracken13
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I thank Sean for what he did for us, but he fricking bailed when the going was going to get tough - and left us swingin in the wind
Payton hired into a complete shitshow in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina & signed a free agent QB they weren't sure could even throw a football again at that time. But he bailed when things got tough?
We are lucky Al Davis brought him McDonald's for lunch at his interview with the Raiders otherwise he doesn't even take the Saints job to begin with.
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 11:14 am
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