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re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted on 2/17/24 at 4:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/17/24 at 4:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Explain to me how over $100M in cap room differences are the "same BOAT", please.
Because you cant predict the future you fricking idiot. Where we are at after we restructure our contracts is what matters right now, and we will see where we end up. Which Ive said repeatedly, you cant predict the future pussy. You are referencing a temporary no.
Carr’s restructure is a big start, a few other decisions, and actually a bunch of obvious resigns on several players.
The fricking salary cap no for 2024 hasnt even been set yet. Do you know anything or are you just a wind bag.
I swear for a wanna couch GM youre unbeleivably slow.
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The salary cap for the 2024 season is yet to be set, but last year the cap was set at $224.8 million, representing a near-$20 million increase over 2022.
Here is how all 32 NFL teams currently stand, keeping in mind that cap space is a constantly changing number as teams maneuver throughout the offseason. Salary sap data comes courtesy of our friends at OverTheCap.
Quite above from this article.
LINK
Let the fricking offseason play out before you piss and moan perhaps?Teams have to get get under the cap all the time, this is nothing new.
fricking please try to keep up.
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OH, and how making the playoffs v. not making the playoffs is the "same BOAT".
You dumbfrick, you must be a Bucs fan. Saints and Bucs both went 9-8. Saints beat the Bucs arse before the playoffs. Luck is a factor in the nfl.
The Bucs were not better than the Saints last year even though they got the tiebreaker and made the playoffs over the Saints. Rams have their own problems starting with Kupps bad contract and aging QB. They had very similar seasons at 9-8/9-8/10-7. Saints had shitty luck and easily could won a tie breaker or beat the Packers game and been 10-7.
Wins are the metric of success in the nfl. Give yourself a chance in the playoffs. (Eli 2x SBowl winner with 9-7 teams)
And if you get lucky, or have Pat Mahomes or a transcendant QB, you could win a Super Bowl or multiple Super Bowls. Once your in the playoffs you never know. Arizona almost stole one with Kurt Warner, Flacco won one, etc.
Mid tier QB’s have done it.
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What success have they had in 2021, 2022, or 2023?
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We're talking 2021-2023
And since you want it, and think you have a point (you dont) please see as follows for last 3 years each teams amount of WINS:
Bucs 30 (Tom Brady/Mayfield)
Rams 27 (Stafford)
Saints 25(JW/AD/Simien/Taysom/Carr)
Worlds apart eh????? NO. And in the same timeframe that the Rams only have two more wins than us they also have a SBowl win.
Now shut the frick up you pussy!
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 4:54 pm
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 5:23 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I don’t think anyone is questioning what the front office did from 2017-2020. They had an open championship window with a franchise QB and built a contender, that’s all you can ask of the front office.
This disconnect you seem to have is he’s talking about what has happened since. So to summarize 2017-2020, great job by the Front Office. 2021-present not such a good job. Current situation looks mediocre at best.
I'm not even that critical for 2021. We tried, it was clear our window was over, and we should have started the rebuild. Instead we doubled down for 2022 and then tripled down for 2023.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 5:30 pm to paulbeasy
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Because you cant predict the future you fricking idiot. Where we are at after we restructure our contracts is what matters right now, and we will see where we end up. Which Ive said repeatedly, you cant predict the future pussy.
1 + 1 = 2
If we have these liabilities and push them off, then other years absorb them. It's basic addition and subtraction.
The distinction is still the same. You just have to look at more than just 2023.
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Carr’s restructure is a big start
MAJOR can kicking.
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The fricking salary cap no for 2024 hasnt even been set yet. Do you know anything or are you just a wind bag.
Do you think that somehow magically it won't have similar appreciation from 2022 to 2023 than what we expect?
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Let the fricking offseason play out before you piss and moan perhaps?
So we end up $85M over the cap instead of $87M? What difference does this make long-term for the franchise?
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Rams have their own problems starting with Kupps bad contract
You'd think after you owned yourself with this nonsense you would have learned, but continue to embarrass yourself.
I only respond to your emotional posts to see just how far you can embarrass yourself further. You never cease to impress
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And in the same timeframe that the Rams only have two more wins than us they also have a SBowl win.
Because they rebuilt for 1 year and are already back in the playoffs with a good cap situation (with mega QB, WR, and DI contracts on the books)
Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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1 + 1 = 2 If we have these liabilities and push them off, then other years absorb them. It's basic addition and subtraction.
Incorrect, you have no clue what can/will happen.
And theres already an article showing how easily the Saints will be cap compliant. Like I said already Carr, and some decisions on a few vets. The rest are obvious resigns.
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Do you think that somehow magically it won't have similar appreciation from 2022 to 2023 than what we expect?
Magically? Do you know that the salary cap for the 2023 season i.e. last year the cap was set at $224.8 million, representing a near-$20 million increase over 2022.
What you expect is and has been wrong for quite some time now.
Similar to you thinking the Saints had a poor deadcap in 2023 and you were clueless what the actual numbers are.
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Because they rebuilt for 1 year
Stafford was HURT. They didnt rebuild you fricking moron. They had a shitty season because their QB went down. They didnt purposely rebuild. They tried to win games and signed Mayfield even. Man playing pretend some more huh?
They did no different then the Saints playing Jamies then Simeon, or Jameis then Dalton.
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and are already back in the playoffs with a good cap situation (with mega QB, WR, and DI contracts on the books)
Stafford is an aging QB, he is no Brees. He is NOT a mega QB. He is a Carr (mid tier qb) that got gifted a Super Bowl by the NFL.
Kupp’s contract is the definition of an albatross. Youre wayy off on this one - he is their MT13. He was restructured last year in 2023. Why pussy? So the rams could get UNDER the cap. Wrong again.
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The Rams have freed up some more cap space for the coming season.
Field Yates of ESPN reports that the team restructured wide receiver Cooper Kupp’s contract. They converted $13.92 million of Kupp’s $15 million base salary into a signing bonus.
The move creates $10.44 million in cap space for the team. Kupp has another base salary of $15 million for the 2024 season and salaries of $12.5 million and $14.85 million for the 2025 and 2026 campaigns.
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The Rams were tight against the salary cap before the move and have not re-signed all of their draft picks yet. This maneuver will allow them to wrap that up and should leave some money for other moves that the team may opt to make later in the year.
Article attached.
LINK
This is MAJOR can kicking.
The Rams barely made the playoffs and the Saints were neck and neck with the Rams/Bucs/Packers for the playoffs. There is not much difference in the group. Saints pounded the Bucs to end the year.
Basically you have no argument. Your just a pussy arse Karen. Youre the emotional “fan” and you obviously played zero meaningful sports. Complete lack of understanding.
At this point please dont pretend your a fan. Im convinced your a Bucs fan trolling Saints talk.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:43 pm to paulbeasy
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Incorrect, you have no clue what can/will happen.
Turning salary or roster bonuses into signing bonuses leads to the results we are discussing, pushing the liabilities down the road
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And theres already an article showing how easily the Saints will be cap compliant
By pushing $80M+ onto future years with cap issues already. Kicking the can.
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Do you know that the salary cap for the 2023 season i.e. last year the cap was set at $224.8 million, representing a near-$20 million increase over 2022.
Yes and we can project, within a reasonable MOE, the expected increases. NFL revenue doesn't change that much without a pandemic.
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Stafford was HURT. They didnt rebuild you fricking moron.
They ate a lot of cap and got rid of one of their core guys to reload via the draft and rebuild both their roster and cap situation.
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Stafford is an aging QB, he is no Brees. He is NOT a mega QB.
Mega QB contract.
Is English not your first language? You are having a lot of trouble reading.
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Kupp’s contract is the definition of an albatross.
They could cut him, pre-June 1, and eat his entire cap hit and still have cap room without touching another contract. That isn't an "albatross"
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This is MAJOR can kicking.
They pushed future liabilities into years with cap space (like 2024).
It has already been established they fricked their 2023 cap to rebuild the cap and their roster. Now it's over, and they have cap space in 2024 (including the money pushed onto 2024).
The difference is they did it into a year with cap space. We have no years with potential cap space until like 2026 or 2027 (to be pushed later into the future after we kick can to get cap compliant this year). They have no dead cap this year, and even if they did, they have the cap space to absorb it.
The Bucs did the same thing.
They both have cap room in 2024. How is that comparable to our cap situation? How are either in the "same BOAT", as you put it?
You still haven't answered how being over $100M apart in cap space is the same, or how playoff appearances are the same as not making the playoffs.
We are waiting.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Turning salary or roster bonuses into signing bonuses leads to the results we are discussing, pushing the liabilities down the road
Common practice, Rams did it with Kupp in 2023.
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Yes and we can project, within a reasonable MOE, the expected increases. NFL revenue doesn't change that much without a pandemic.
Wrong again moron. Cap history is sporadic and could be over 20million increase or regress back to 10million or less.
No one know what the 2024 cap will be. Especially not you so shut the frick up.
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2023: $224,800,000 ($16,600,000 increase)
2022: $208,2000,000 ($25,700,000 increase)
2021: $182,500,000 ($15,700,000 decrease)
2020: $198,200,000 ($10,000,000 increase)
2019: $188,200,000 ($11,000,000 increase)
2018: $177,200,000 ($10,200,000 increase)
2017: $167,000,000 ($11,730,000 increase)
2016: $155,270,000 ($11,990,000 increase)
2015: $143,280,000 ($10,280,000 increase)
2014: $133,000,000 ($9,400,000 increase)
2013: $123,600,000 ($3,000,000 increase)
2012: $120,600,000 ($225,000 increase)
2011: $120,375,000
2010: Uncapped 2009: $123,000,000 ($7,000,000 increase)
2008: $116,000,000 ($7,000,000 increase)
2007: $109,000,000 ($7,000,000 increase)
2006: $102,000,000 ($16,500,000 increase)
2005: $85,500,000 ($4,918,000 increase)
2004: $80,582,000 ($5,575,000 increase)
2003: $75,007,000 ($3,906,000 increase)
2002: $71,101,000 ($3,696,000 increase)
2001: $67,405,000 ($5,233,000 increase)
2000: $62,172,000 ($4,884,000 increase)
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They could cut him, pre-June 1, and eat his entire cap hit and still have cap room without touching another contract. That isn't an "albatross"
Wrong again moron.
Kupp has a $29,780,000 cap hit for 2024 and cutting him in 2024 would result in $47,040,000 in dead money from his contract alone.
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POTENTIAL OUT: 2025, $17,260,000 DEAD CAP 2025
They can get out if his contract in 2025, but it would still be a $17million dollar dead cap hit.
Link attached click it pussy. These are actual facts. Not youre made up bullshite.
LINK .
Keep making shite up pussy.
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They both have cap room in 2024. How is that comparable to our cap situation? How are either in the "same BOAT", as you put it?
They literally had the same amount of dead cap this year 2023, as Saints did in 2022. Their bad contracts ARE/WILL coming to fruition now. Kupp’s contract, and Bucs seemingly will sign Baker to a mid tier QB deal like Carr (30 plus million) and it will cycle back around.
This is how the salary cap works numbnuts.
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You still haven't answered how being over $100M apart in cap space is the same, or how playoff appearances are the same as not making the playoffs.
Actually I have repeatedly.
(1) your clueless and clearly what the salary cap for teams will END UP being is going to be far different from the numbers we see right now. The fricking salary cap hasnt been set yet for 2024 and the offseason has not started. Youre literally just making shite up. You have NO clue where teams will end up or what signings etc could occur.
(2) the saints, bucs and rams all had similar records. The bucs got spanked by the saints and the saints were the better team at the end of the year. There is luck involved and the Bucs were lucky to have the tie breaker for the playoffs. The rams were lucky Carr got injured in the GBay game.
Saints and Bucs went 9-8 and Bucs luckily got a tiebreaker. Time to give up - might as well not even play in 2024 right pussy?
Now shut the frick up pussy! Go root for the Bucs/rams - you already have their nuts in your mouth.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm not even that critical for 2021. We tried, it was clear our window was over, and we should have started the rebuild. Instead we doubled down for 2022 and then tripled down for 2023
Right, because after going 5-2 with Jameis a rebuild was the move???
Get the frick dumbass.
Ps we lost 5 straight games with Simeon as starter after Jameis got hurt.
But you dont actually watch games you just watch dead cap and piss and moan fricking pussy arse Karen.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:21 pm to paulbeasy
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Common practice, Rams did it with Kupp in 2023.
And are now under the cap to absorb it, so it had no net negative effects over the long term.
It's not comparable to the Saints pushing dead cap onto years where we are already over the cap.
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No one know what the 2024 cap will be. Especially not you so shut the frick up.
It is predictable within a reasonable MOE
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Kupp has a $29,780,000 cap hit for 2024 and cutting him in 2024 would result in $47,040,000 in dead money from his contract alone.
They would take a $17.2M hit on their cap
The Rams are about $24M under the cap
Cutting Cut would leave them with about $7M in cap room.
That puts them over $90M in cap advantage over the Saints, still, even after cutting that "albatross" (pre-June 1, so eating all that dead cap in 2024).
As I said, "They could cut him, pre-June 1, and eat his entire cap hit and still have cap room without touching another contract. "
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They can get out if his contract in 2025, but it would still be a $17million dollar dead cap hit.
Link attached click it pussy. These are actual facts. Not youre made up bullshite.
You are displaying an inability to read and do Kindergarten-level math
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They literally had the same amount of dead cap this year 2023, as Saints did in 2022.
What does this matter in 2024?
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(1) your clueless and clearly what the salary cap for teams will END UP being is going to be far different from the numbers we see right now. The fricking salary cap hasnt been set yet for 2024 and the offseason has not started. Youre literally just making shite up. You have NO clue where teams will end up or what signings etc could occur.
(2) the saints, bucs and rams all had similar records. The bucs got spanked by the saints and the saints were the better team at the end of the year. There is luck involved and the Bucs were lucky to have the tie breaker for the playoffs. The rams were lucky Carr got injured in the GBay game.
Again, you either can't, or won't, answer simple questions.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:22 pm to paulbeasy
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Right, because after going 5-2 with Jameis a rebuild was the move???
Considering we didn't make the playoffs in 2021, 2022, or 2023, while digging a bigger cap hole? Clearly.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They would take a $17.2M hit on their cap The Rams are about $24M under the cap
Wrong again. Man who cant read? Is this real life.
Kupp has a $29,780,000 cap hit for 2024 and cutting him in 2024 would result in $47,040,000 in dead money from his contract alone. His cap hit of $29 million would be MORE than their current cap space, which is actually irrelevant since the 2024 offseason hasnt even started yet you twit.
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They would take a $17.2M hit on their cap
In 2025 you fricking retard.
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The Rams are about $24M under the cap Cutting Cut would leave them with about $7M in cap room.
Completely wrong.
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You are displaying an inability to read and do Kindergarten-level math
Says the fricktard trying to lie.
The pictures above show that youre a fricking idiot. Sad that I have to post it just because youre playing pretend you pussy.
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That puts them over $90M in cap advantage over the Saints
2024 cap hasnt even beed set yet and you dont know shite. You dont even understand Kupp’s monster contract.
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Again, you either can't, or won't, answer simple questions.
Again your lying and full of shite. You just continue to ignore the facts and make shite up. The current sate of teams cap is irrelevant, the 2024 cap is being set, and how our offseason plays out will be a huge factor. As it is for ANY team.
And I dont beleive youre dumb enough to not understand how the 9-8 Saints and 9-8 Bucs are not vastly different from one another. You just keep saying the same bullshite over and over for like 10 years now.
Now shut the frick up pussy Karen!
Posted on 2/17/24 at 11:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Considering we didn't make the playoffs in 2021, 2022, or 2023, while digging a bigger cap hole? Clearly.
Our deadcap was 24 million in 2023, after being after being 43 million in 2022, and 49 million in 2021.
Now how exactly were we digging a bigger cap hole during this time? You fricking tool.
PS at no point has our dead cap been as bad as the Bucs/Rams i.e. not 70 plus million.
Offseason numbers are meaningless.
We signed Carr, now we need to restrcuture etc, par for the course, Rams signed Kupp, had to restructure his monster contract. Restructuring large contracts is par for the course in the NFL.
And Bucs are about to drop a bad on Mayfield, high mid tier qb money. And they’ll restructure him and avoid high cap hits on him in the future also.
Now shut the frick up pussy arse Karen!
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 2/18/24 at 12:22 am to SlowFlowPro
QB at best top 15
RB at best top 10
WR at best top 20
TE at best Top 20
OL at best top 25
DL at best top 25
LB at best top 15
CB at best top 10
S at best top 15
K at best top 25
P at best top 25
HC top 30 at best
FO top 25 at best
28 is unfortunately pretty fair TBH
RB at best top 10
WR at best top 20
TE at best Top 20
OL at best top 25
DL at best top 25
LB at best top 15
CB at best top 10
S at best top 15
K at best top 25
P at best top 25
HC top 30 at best
FO top 25 at best
28 is unfortunately pretty fair TBH
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:24 am to paulbeasy
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Kupp has a $29,780,000 cap hit for 2024 and cutting him in 2024 would result in $47,040,000 in dead money from his contract alone.
Yes. The net impact would be a $17.26M hit on their cap.
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His cap hit of $29 million would be MORE than their current cap space,
I don't think you understand any of these numbers.
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In 2025 you fricking retard.
In 2025, they can save $12.5M on their cap by cutting him, with the lowered dead cap of $17.26M.
So if were applying that impact to 2024, they'd end up around $36-37M in cap room because waiting until 2025 would lessen the blow significantly. Which is what they will do since they are already under the cap and there is no reason to kick that can and lock themselves into an aging Kupp (which is exactly what the Saints do, like with Mathieu, Maye, Cam, etc. last offseason).
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The pictures above show that youre a fricking idiot. Sad that I have to post it just because youre playing pretend you pussy.
You don't know what those numbers mean. I posted a better pic with the impact of cutting him so that you can understand better.
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And I dont beleive youre dumb enough to not understand how the 9-8 Saints and 9-8 Bucs are not vastly different from one another.
Bucs were rebuilding in 2023 and went 9-8 and made the playoffs
Saints were all in, in 2023, and went 9-8 and missed the playoffs
There is about a $110M in cap difference in the 2 in 2024
Which team's situation would you rather:
Team A: $33.7M under the cap after making the playoffs with a clean cap situation moving forward
Team B: $87.7M over the cap after missing the playoffs, with an even worse cap situation in future years
Both had the same record in the year Team A took their medicine and rebuilt for a year.
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 7:25 am
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:28 am to paulbeasy
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Our deadcap was 24 million in 2023, after being after being 43 million in 2022, and 49 million in 2021.
Now how exactly were we digging a bigger cap hole during this time?
We dug an insane cap hole in 2023 by this act:
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We signed Carr,
We would be in a significantly better situation (still bad, but not insanely terrible) without that stupid move.
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PS at no point has our dead cap been as bad as the Bucs/Rams i.e. not 70 plus million.
Because we have never chosen to take our medicine and rebuild. Although 2025 is shaping up to potentially have that level of dead cap without the ability to rebuild.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
It’ll be fine
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:40 am to DBG
"Fine" as in mostly mediocre, sometimes bad, and maybe a playoff appearance every 5 years ago? Possibly.
"Fine" as in a title contender? Naw. We hamstring ourselves too much each year and are about to enter the decline where we are forced to keep old players who aren't that good anymore (Cam, Maye, Mathieu, etc.), for cap purposes.
We are very likely to lose our 2 best players (Latt, Ram) within the next 2 years as well. That's going to have major impacts on our play and cap.
"Fine" as in a title contender? Naw. We hamstring ourselves too much each year and are about to enter the decline where we are forced to keep old players who aren't that good anymore (Cam, Maye, Mathieu, etc.), for cap purposes.
We are very likely to lose our 2 best players (Latt, Ram) within the next 2 years as well. That's going to have major impacts on our play and cap.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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So if were applying that impact to 2024, they'd end up around $36-37M in cap room because waiting until 2025 would lessen the blow significantly. Which is what they will do since they are already under the cap and there is no reason to kick that can and lock themselves into an aging Kupp (which is exactly what the Saints do, like with Mathieu, Maye, Cam, etc. last offseason).
You fricking moron they restructured him in 2023. Literally they just restructured Kupp and did the Saints strategy in June of 2023. Kupp had a subpar season in 2022, and the restructured him in 2023, and they will be paying the price or making another move eventually.
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Yes. The net impact would be a $17.26M hit on their cap.
Wrong you fricking idiot. It would save them $17 million in cap space - can you read??? The cap hit is $29million.
Hey buddy cap savings is not the same as your cap hit.
Your cap no is your cap hit. Unreal.
Let me help you clown.
See how what this means now? Or still confused?
Bro thinks your cap hit is the same as your cap savings.
Cap hit numbers circled for you simpleton.
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I don't think you understand any of these numbers.
I dont think you understand any of these numbers.
Very obvious you DON’T. I’ll have to bust out some crayons soon to help you understand I guess.
Youre clueless. LOL.
They’re not going to cut Kupp in 2024 - thats $47 million in dead cap on the books. Are you blind?
Here you go making shite up again. His cap hit is $29million i.e. amount of cap he’s taking, and dead cap if cut is $47million in 2024.
IF they cut him in 2024 it would create $17million in CAP SPACE, but would cause a $47million dead cap number.
They are not going to cut him you dumb frick.
And they already restructured him post injury and after bad prooduction in 2023.
Bro is clueless, and either dumb or just a flat out liar.
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There is about a $110M in cap difference in the 2 in 2024 Which team's situation would you rather: Team A: $33.7M under the cap after making the playoffs with a clean cap situation moving forward Team B: $87.7M over the cap after missing the playoffs, with an even worse cap situation in future years
NO THERE isnt you pussy, the fricking 2024 offseason HAS NOT even started yet and the 2024 cap no HAS NOT been set yet.
We will see where these teams end up, but citing pre offseason/free agency number is POINTLESS.
Go ahead keep exposing yourself.
And shut the frick up pussy!
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 8:45 am
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
Depends on how we draft and how Kubiak transform the offense.
Lattimore and Ramczyk are probably both washed too. It’s unfortunate and bad luck, but they can’t be counted on as key pieces going forward. Isn’t taking the hit on them something you’re advocating?
Lattimore and Ramczyk are probably both washed too. It’s unfortunate and bad luck, but they can’t be counted on as key pieces going forward. Isn’t taking the hit on them something you’re advocating?
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:52 am to paulbeasy
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Literally they just restructured Kupp
Because they were still in cap hell in 2023.
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and did the Saints strategy in June of 2023.
In 2024 they're under the cap. We are $80M+ over the cap.
How is that the same strategy?
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and they will be paying the price or making another move eventually.
They're under the cap with his huge cap number.
Again, it's not comparable to the Saints.
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The cap hit is $29million.
If he's not cut.
I thought we were discussing if he was cut?
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Bro thinks your cap hit is the same as your cap savings.
You are actually confusing the 2
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They’re not going to cut Kupp in 2024 -
I already said that. I said they COULD do it and still be under the cap.
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IF they cut him in 2024 it would create $17million in CAP SPACE
No. It would create $17M in additional hits to their cap (in 2024), due to the large dead money remaining.
That's what the red number in parentheses means.
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NO THERE isnt you pussy, the fricking 2024 offseason HAS NOT even started yet and the 2024 cap no HAS NOT been set yet.
Those numbers will be correct within a reasonable MOE, say, $5M.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:00 am to DBG
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Isn’t taking the hit on them something you’re advocating?
Having either become an issue was something I said last year (when we signed Carr like morons) could blow this whole scheme up.
You're already seeing it in now having the team leak they're going to restructure Carr, which was specifically something they were not supposed to do (the "it's really a 3-year, $100M contract" stuff).
Ram and Latt were our primary ATMs for can kicking, and just losing that blows up the plan. However, prematurely dealing with the accumulated dead money on either is incredibly scary. We may have to deal with both in the same offseason.
Look at our 2025 cap situation
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