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re: Season going according to Kellen Moore's plan
Posted on 10/30/25 at 1:21 pm to touchdownjeebus
Posted on 10/30/25 at 1:21 pm to touchdownjeebus
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But there isn’t a consensus franchise QB in the draft.
No biggie. Keep building through the trenches and secondary. When we’re more apt to compete in a couple years you can sign a bridge guy or a more high profile free agent.
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Posted on 10/30/25 at 1:50 pm to TIGERSby10
quote:Meaningless, even if true. The plan is the plan. There is no going back.
Ratler > Shough
Posted on 10/30/25 at 1:58 pm to S
quote:
But there isn’t a consensus franchise QB in the draft.
When has 'consensus' always been right? Man made global warming?
Posted on 10/30/25 at 2:22 pm to Handsome Pete
quote:
Waaaay too early to say that.
Yeah, it's getting a bit annoying hearing people say over and over, "this is a weak draft". First, it's not. Second, there will be much more clarity by the end of the season. People will separate and the Saints need quite a few positions. I agree with your takes and almost certainly we will and should be taking a QB with a top 3 pick. If Shough does something, then great we can hopefully trade down a little and grab some D and a WR plus a 1st next year.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 4:12 pm to Handsome Pete
Draft a playmaker in round one (edge rusher, WR, or CB), then a center or guard in round two. Maybe a TE in round three.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 4:26 pm to FightinTigersDammit
They better not draft a QB after spending a 2nd round pick on TS.With. All the help this roster needed and that was the pick,incompetence at its best.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 4:48 pm to RGT
quote:Loser thinking. Look up "sunk cost fallacy". If Shough (or Rattler) is not good enough, you don't stick with him because of prior draft cost. You keep drafting QBs until you have one.
They better not draft a QB after spending a 2nd round pick on TS.With. All the help this roster needed and that was the pick,incompetence at its best.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 6:54 pm to touchdownjeebus
quote:This is one of the dumbest arguments ever. Choosing a franchise QB is something that will be determined in the future and not looking back to pre-draft evaluations. If you draft Patrick Mahomes or Brady your team has a franchise QB regardless of what any pre-draft scouting says. The draft position is completely irrelevant if you hit on one.
But there isn’t a consensus franchise QB in the draft
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:13 pm to Sofaking2
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If you draft Patrick Mahomes or Brady your team has a franchise QB regardless of what any pre-draft scouting says. The draft position is completely irrelevant if you hit on one.
And I’m sure you had both as the first pick of the draft. Dumb arse GMs let Mahomes slide in the in the 1st and Brady all the way to the 6th, but you knew…
As of right now, the consensus is that no QB has shown franchise QB material. One of the dumbest things you can do is argue in fricking hindsight. Everyone is a draft savant if they could make the picks 5yrs in the past.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:05 pm to Handsome Pete
Up to this week, Saints opponents have combined record of 33-20.
The rest of the season, our opponents have combined record of 22-32.
It will be Shough’s turn to show us what he’s got against bottom level competition. In the offseason, the coaching staff will figure out if we’ve seen enough to go QB with that top 5 pick.
The rest of the season, our opponents have combined record of 22-32.
It will be Shough’s turn to show us what he’s got against bottom level competition. In the offseason, the coaching staff will figure out if we’ve seen enough to go QB with that top 5 pick.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:24 am to goatmilker
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You sure have a boner for bringing up Vele over and over and over again.
How is it not responsive/applicable to OP?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:53 am to SlowFlowPro
Everyone can post their opinions on who to draft but the Loomis factor will always be there , he will surprise everyone with the handling of the first pick, just a friendly FYI
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:58 am to Cgal
we do want a top pick, so we can trade down. it doesn't even need to be an even trade. we need to get younger and cheaper.
Downs is my favorite.
Downs is my favorite.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:45 am to Handsome Pete
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:08 am to Handsome Pete
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
Exactly
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:53 pm to goatmilker
That wasn't an answer.
The OP speculates we planned on being bad (he describes it as a "reasonable tank")
How does the Vele trade work with that strategy?
The OP speculates we planned on being bad (he describes it as a "reasonable tank")
How does the Vele trade work with that strategy?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Trading a 4th round pick for a cost-controlled (presumably) starting caliber receiver can be part of a reasonable tank. It's the reasonable part.
How does the Vele trade work with that strategy?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How does the Vele trade work with that strategy?
The true value of the Vele has not been written yet. You must know this. If it works out in the long run the short term tactics were correct overall despite the short term opinions.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 8:02 am to Handsome Pete
quote:
Trading a 4th round pick for a cost-controlled (presumably) starting caliber receiver can be part of a reasonable tank.
Trading an early 4th cannot
Especially for an old player
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